Simple hook lock

[kickdrum]

Newbie here with a newbie question. I have a Brinks security box with some keepsakes in it, but I lost the keys. I'm pretty sure the lock is just a simple hook. What's the best way to pick it? Here's a pic of what my lock box looks like:

[CPLP]

Never saw any box like that. First of all the lock is not a simple hook, but there's a pick we call hook. Please try to focus your picture on the keyway and on the key. It probably is a pin tumbler lock or a wafer lock, you should try to find information about how to pick it in the forum using the search button.

[skold]

wafer lock...cough cough

[horsefeathers]

Never saw any box like that. First of all the lock is not a simple hook, but there's a pick we call hook. Please try to focus your picture on the keyway and on the key. It probably is a pin tumbler lock or a wafer lock, you should try to find information about how to pick it in the forum using the search button.

I would say that that is not a pic of his actual box, i.e he did not take the pic. Looks like a standard 'brochure' pic (no background) of a similar box to his. Almost certainly wafer on this box (which is therefore easy peasy to pick) but a pic to confirm would help.

regards

wayne

[kickdrum]

No, that isn't a pic I took. I found it on the net doing a search, but it's the exact same box as the one I have. It's a Brinks Home Security Deluxe Security Box Model - 4030. It says it has a "latch hook and key lock."

Here's a closeup of the lock:

[CPLP]

Latch hook doesn't mention the name of the lock, it is just the tipe of mechanism that keeps the lock closed. I think you really should try to learn how to pick locks by searching in the forum for manuals. Picking locks is not something we can explain or teach in one post. Altough it might be an easy wafer lock to open, It's still hard to teach you in minutes. You have to get practice... that's the most important thing. It can also be a hard lock to pick. Just try making some tools and raking the lock.

[kickdrum]

I went and bought an identical lock box ($13.95) and here's what the lock looks like:



I believe it's a cam lock?

[CPLP]

I'm almost shure it is a wafer lock. Do as I told you, make some picks yourself (it can be by paper clips) and try to open it. It seems like mail boxes locks.

[illusion]

Yes, it is a cam lock.

The lock is a simple wafer, or so I'm lead to believe. With the understanding that it is such a lock I'll offer what I can. The keyway looks odd, but perhaps it's merely the lighting.

I'll quote what I wrote in a previous thread:

Apply tension, lift the wafer which feels the most resistant, keep lifting untill you feel the plug turn slightly.

Apply tension, and rake the lock with a half diamond, or rake pick.

Lift all the wafers with the pick as high as they go, use stronfg tension to kee them lifted, then gently rake the wafers whilst reducing tension slightly - they should set and the lock open.

Of course if you are unsure about any of the terms you will do well to learn the basics first: http://www.gregmiller.net/locks/mitguide/

This is the MIT guide, and it is currently the best... which is freely available

Here's a thread regarding the insides of these locks:
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=10541

Of course, if it's not a wafer lock I've wasted my time doing bugger all

Hope this helps...

[kickdrum]

I GOT IT! After about a half hours worth of practicing, I can pretty much open it at will. Locking it's a , though. Any advice on locking?

[CPLP]

Do you mean locking it back? That's just picking it the other way around.

[kickdrum]

I mean, do I use the tension wrench in the opposite direction?

[illusion]

yes.

[CPLP]

Yes

[CPLP]

You were faster than me illusion