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by **CPLP** » 4 Mar 2006 13:35

Hello, welcome. Feel free to star looking aroung the site... and posting news or questions

by **Keyring** » 4 Mar 2006 14:31

Hejsan svejsan!

by **badbird** » 4 Mar 2006 14:47

I lurked here for quite a while, so I suppose it might be appropriate to introduce myself. I'm a computer geek with a long-time fascination with various apsects of physical security, including locks and safes (which also sorta conicides with my job). For ages, I was merely an "armchair expert" who had read a couple of books and knew all the theory (and even authored a text that was debated on "advanced" forums here), but I had no actual hands-on experience.

Well, that has changed - today I picked my first lock. I chose my target in possibly the least reasonable way - a fully pinned 5-pin narrow euro cylinder, and lockpicks made out of diaper safety pins. I also had to hold the lock in my hands, because I couldn't be bothered to make a practice board... but hey, that only makes me twice that proud ;-)

Cheers!

by **MeisBarry** » 4 Mar 2006 18:29

I've been reading this site for months, and just decided I wanted to make an attempt to learn more and contribute, so I made an account.

by **gattsryu** » 5 Mar 2006 2:42

Hi.. I'm new. I also happen to be a newbie to picking. My first succesful pick was a deadbolt of some sorts when I was 7 years old and I'm still baffled on how the *#@! I did it.

by **gattsryu** » 5 Mar 2006 2:46

Oops, is that considered profanity? If it is, I appologize. I posted before reading the rules.

by **Shrub** » 5 Mar 2006 10:59

Welcome one and all, give the site a good read, before you post use the search button to check if your question has been answered before (i am sure it will have been) and yes, read the rules before you start.

by mh » 5 Mar 2006 11:53

Shrub wrote:... and yes, read the rules before you start.

BTW, I did read the Rules,
and became confused

about the term 'advanced' lock:

Apparently, people in U.K. put locks on the doors to their houses that people in Germany would put only on the doors of insurance rated safes. And so the manipluation of lever-type locks seems to be 'non-advanced' here... :shock:

But then again, the manipulation of Kingston laptop combo locks (the same type you find on briefcases - 3 to 4 wheels, and manipulated in seconds

) seems to be considered 'advanced'.

Is there some definition what you guys call 'advanced'?

Cheers,
mh

by **jordyh** » 5 Mar 2006 11:58

mh wrote:Is there some definition what you guys call 'advanced'?

Anything that is said to be advanced in the forum rules. :lol:

Welcome to LP101.

Yours,

jordy

by **CPLP** » 5 Mar 2006 12:02

I'm no shure but advanced doesn't have to mean that you take much time to open. Things that can indanger security are of the advanced forum. Things that can be opened in seconds showldn't be in the regular forum because anyone could see it and use it in the wrong way. And I believe lever locks there in the UK are much easier to open than the locks used in Germany (real pain in the neck to open, some are even bump prove). So it's all a matter of security and protecting peoples safety. If a loke has a bid defect than the method to bypass it showld be in the advanced forum. If germans use those locks in safes that's because it has to be another mechanism that helps protecting the security of the safe. My father as a vault with a very easy to open lever lock, but it has also a code mechanism that is what makes it so safe and dificult to crack. :wink:

by **CPLP** » 5 Mar 2006 12:04

Sorry: If a lock has a big defect...

Welcome

by **Shrub** » 5 Mar 2006 12:56

mh i dont know where that came from it wasnt in reply to you and you hadnt posted previously, read the posts before hand when you want to add on to a topic and youll stop getting mixed up, the rules joke/comment was aimed at the post before mine that said he realised he should have read the rules.

cplp, your misguided if you think all uk lever locks are easy to open,

by **CPLP** » 5 Mar 2006 14:16

I was trying to explain what advanced means. I didn't say all uk lever locks were easy to open (I said I think they are easier than the germans), because I don't know UK lever locks but I know some German locks. :wink:

by **CapnCurry** » 5 Mar 2006 14:27

Hi! I'm just taking my first steps into the world of professional locksmithing, and am running a simple moble lockout service as a second job while I learn the rest of the ropes. I'm operating out of Suffolk, Virginia, and am having a lot of fun working my way into this new career. My "day job" is as a technical support supervisor for a local communications company, and while I'm very happy at this job, it's definitely not where I want to be in five years. If you're in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia and want to talk shop, feel free to drop me a line - I never get tired of talking about (or playing with) locks and keys!

by mh » 5 Mar 2006 15:29

Shrub wrote:mh i dont know where that came from it wasnt in reply to you and you hadnt posted previously

I'm sorry, I have used the quote feature in a confusing way. Didn't mean to confuse anyone, sorry. :oops:

I just wanted to find a reference where I could ask something about the Rules concerning 'what is advanced'.

My point is that some locks in the 'open' section seem to be rather advanced, like the BODA lock
viewtopic.php?t=10018
(that's similar to what you would find in some German safes, and:
CPLP, I also think they are bump-proof, but I think that problem exists mainly in pin tumbler locks anyway)

And then there are simpler locks like the Kingston lock in
viewtopic.php?t=11875
where the thread was closed.

So: thanks for advising me, I understand that big defects / design flaws should not be discussed in the 'open' section.

Cheers,
mh

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