Tips for whoever has trouble to open Master No. 140

[yungning]

actually, the tips is from MIT guild 9.9

1. use the flat side of your pcik to push the pins up all the way.
2. apply very heavy torque to hold them there
3. raking to vibrate the key pins while you slowly reduce the torque.
4. opened...

sometimes i only push all the pins to half way and hold them there..then do pin pressing or raking.

it works...but the most difficult part is 'slowly reduce the torque'

now i can open Master No.140 and No. 532 pretty quick.

thank you...

[marso]

yungning, thanks for the tip. I have not tried reverse picking much and should really get some practice with it.

I would suggest though practicing and learning how to pick these locks with single pin so that your skills improve for higher locks. Not saying reverse picking is bad, I think it is great to do to give confidence.

[almightyares]

Ok, I still cannot open the No. 140! I have been trying for like 3 months now off and on, and I cant get it open. I even took it to a local locksmith, and two people there couldnt get it open. They both used their electric pick gun and their snap gun, and also their hand picks. What gives I tell you, what gives?

[i_want_to_pick]

This question may sound stupid, but ohh well.
How do you tell what kind of master(Master Craft right?) lock it is?? I've seen all over this site, questions about different # master locks but when Iwent to the store to look at some, I couldn't tell what # any of them were. Thanks for the help.
Matt

[Chucklz]

Check out www.masterlock.com

The number is engraved on the bottom of each lock.

[Red]

Hi,
Here are links to a couple of sites that will help you weed through the locks and code names:
http://www.lockcodes.com/names.htm

http://www.masterlock.com/

Hope that helps!

[Red]

Chucklz,
We had the same thought at exactly the same time...scary huh?


Have a great weekend!

[Chucklz]

Red,

Great minds think alike,

Ciao

[Red]

That would be MASTER minds...
Sorry, I'm sure the pun is making you groan.
Naturally I am in total agreement!
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I've got a question- This question was posed and I'm unsure if there is any ONE tool that can do the job. Have you an answer to this? I know of core remover for individual lock brands but not for ALL cores.

Original question was:
"hi i need a tool which can be used to forcefully remove all cylinder/oval locks from various doors? "

[Chucklz]

There is such a tool, and there are several versions. HPC sells a safety deposit nose puller that would do the job. Multipick has a very nce looking setup with several adapter plates, and such that also looks promising.

[Mad Mick]

There is a tool which is used in the motor trade, which could be considered a 'universal plug puller'.
It is actually used for pulling dents, pulling wheel hubs etc. The tool is a slide-hammer, which (if you haven't seen one) is a large weight which is able to slide along a long shaft with a 'stop' at the end you hold on to. There is usually an adaptor, which enables a screw to be driven into whatever you want to pull, then the shaft is screwed into it. The weight is usually around the 2.5-10lb mark, and should be ample to pull a plug from a doorknob/padlock. I use this tool now and again, to pull off siezed objects weighing up to 20lbs, so I'm confident that the pins would fail before the tool. The weak point, however, is the method of attachment (i.e. screw).

Do a 'google' for 'slide hammer' and you'll see what I'm referring to.

[Chucklz]

Mick, the tool to which I refer, works on the same principle. You drive a strong screw into the cylinder, and pull out the plug/entire cylinder. The only difference is how force is applied. The nose puller/lock killer applies force gradually, as you turn a nut. This way, you can worry less about the sudden strain on the screw.

[Mad Mick]

Chucklz, the end result is still the same though? An unusable lock.

Granted, the shock to the screw could be a problem!!

[Chucklz]

Generally, the lock is unusable. But, if you just pull the plug, you can sometimes install a new plug etc. Just as though you were drilling a cylinder.

[sentientsentinel]

I'm gonna try this strong tension, overset, release tension slowly then rake.I've got a kwikset cylinder knock off that this tecnique works on but i'm gonna buy some master padlocks and give this a go thanx for the post.