yale titan?

by **chrisjc33** » 9 Mar 2006 17:23

i customer asked me to supply and fit a yale titan.now insted of saying i'm not sure what one is (mortice,nightlatch,euro,eurocase,.......)i just said i a confident voice i will be round in the morning.
so my question is what is a yale titan?, have done a google but very little.is it new/old cheap/expensive?

by **toomush2drink** » 9 Mar 2006 17:32

It appears to be more of a range rather than a particular lock. The x series for instance is the newer stuff so something from that should do the trick.

by **quacking_duck** » 9 Mar 2006 17:36

There was a BS3621 mortice lock a good few years ago called the Yale Titan. This looks and picks / decodes exactly the same as the old red ERA invincible with the brass levers and spacers, except it was in hammerite blue. The one I've got says BS 1980 on the faceplate, so it's going back a while.

If I remember correctly, Titan was just the name given to the Yale high security and BS locks at the time (80s, early 90s) and I think, what is now the Yale PBS1, (or should I say XBS1) also had 'Titan' on the packaging.
I'd just make sure you take BS locks and a PBS / XBS 1&2 Chris.

Hope this helps,

Matt

by **chrisjc33** » 9 Mar 2006 17:44

Thanks guys

by **gazzaull25** » 9 Mar 2006 17:59

hi ive come across a yale titan b4 it wa a night latch very good lock from what i rember looks like a good strong lock and bs i think but not sure.
had a hardened steel plate/disc around the key entrance and auto deadlocking and a good strong keep to the lock :lol:

by **pinky** » 9 Mar 2006 18:04

it could be the nightlatch, but more likely the old BS lock, as matt says, hammerite blue case, oval cut out around keyway, identical to the old red invincible with same oval cut out.
its an old range you wont get now, so it will be a matter of upgrading to modern BS lock.

but dont forget if fitting bs locks the bs locks with the BS3621-1998 rating are not classed as BS on fresh fits, you now need to fit BS3621-2004 locks to meet the requirement such as yale e series , fortress etc.

by **chrisjc33** » 9 Mar 2006 18:28

pinky wrote:but dont forget if fitting bs locks the bs locks with the BS3621-1998 rating are not classed as BS on fresh fits, you now need to fit BS3621-2004 locks to meet the requirement such as yale e series , fortress etc.

cheers pinky,i din't realise so this also aplies replacement lock if so what the hell am i gonna do with all my mortice locks.
the only ones i have that are BS3621-2004 is the fortress

by **pinky** » 9 Mar 2006 18:33

the bs rating pre 2004 still stands for now on existing locks fitted before january, so for now i think you will not need to worry, but with sks now selling bs3621-1998 locks as non bs locks its one to be carefull of for future.
I cant see many insurers looking at it for a while, its just worth remembering that if fitting bs locks now they should conform to the 2004 rating, technically its wrong to fit your old locks as bs, but i think 90% of lockies will be fitting these till stocks are depleted and insurers will still recognise the old locks fitted pre january as BS locks fully complying.

by **pixel** » 10 Mar 2006 13:06

The only Yale Titan I know is an older nightlatch which is a Yale No1 lock
with a PBS strike and PBS cylinder escutcheon with Titan engraved on it.

by **ELC** » 10 Mar 2006 15:39

Are the chubb and union 'e' series with 1998 faceplates not as compliant as the ones stamped 2004 then? Or can i continue fit them guilt free?

by **pinky** » 10 Mar 2006 15:50

for now its only a technicality, so id fit old stock for a while at least guilt free.

by **quacking_duck** » 10 Mar 2006 21:37

Pixel, great stuff

Here is a nightlatch I found advertised on ebay today that sounds like your description. I didn't know there was one that looked like the 1MS with the PBS escutcheon. I thought the whole lock and backset may have been the PBS style. I'd heard of the Yale Titan range a good few years ago, but mainly the BS lock as I said earlier.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YALE-TITAN-High-S ... otohosting

by **pixel** » 11 Mar 2006 13:09

Yeah that's the one.

by **sidpick** » 11 Mar 2006 19:27

More than likely that the chap wants that pbs1 but this is the other yale titan - A trip down lock nostalgia lane....

This is my favourite old lock, still in the box!!

by **quacking_duck** » 11 Mar 2006 23:06

Well that Titan BS really is in top nick Sid. My sashlock's seen much better days although it's still in one piece! (just about)

The only old lock I've got in that sort of condition is an early 70's 110 'Castle' lock in the box I bought on e-bay a couple of years back.

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