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by lockedin » 19 Mar 2006 22:35
Just wondering,what you guys think is the most secure lock under $10? I nominate disk-type locks like the Brinks r70. At least for me, it is tedious to pick with its security-pins. Its deadbolting and minimum exposure of its shackle make it pretty secure against shim and bolt-cutter type attacks.

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by Shrub » 19 Mar 2006 22:36
So when you say lock are you meaning padlocks?
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by lockedin » 19 Mar 2006 22:37
yes, padlocks. Excuse my ambiguity.
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by Shrub » 19 Mar 2006 23:00
Its ok, its just that euro cylinders etc have more choice as padlocks also have a big lump of metal to manufacture as well thats included in the cost.
As for your question then, its a hard one as i think $10 is quite a low price i think your probably not far off with your initial suggestion but im not all that up on my padlocks to be honest.
I take it your obviously meaning rrp as well.
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by sams choice » 20 Mar 2006 1:26
wish i was a member when i saw this post. The most difficult $10 retail padlock i have found is the Brinks Shrouded padlock which is found in walmart, aisle 5. It has 6 pins, all 6 are spools, the key way is crazyly tight, and the bottem pins are pointed to make it hard on that. I have picked some really really really difficult locks that would make you think i could pick this one with ease, but the one i bought i can't. I havent been able to pick it yet, but i also havent given it more then 5 minutes at a time. It really upsets me and i throw it down. I think it is hard because of the High Low High really low, Really high, low cut of the key I got. Man im depressed now.
When i get to my house i will take real pictures, I might cut it open tomarrow to show you guys the inside, or atleast take a picture of the one on the back of the box.
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by lockedin » 20 Mar 2006 1:43
I saw that shrouded padlock at Walmart too (you'd be surprise at the kind of security you can find there). I've tried a lot on the R70 also, my pick gun wouldn't even open it after like 10 minutes of trying. I'll probably buy that shrouded one next.
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by Shrub » 20 Mar 2006 9:21
Sams choice, youve lost me, you was a member when the post was made and youve posted on it so youve obviously seen it 
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by LockNewbie21 » 20 Mar 2006 14:47
In regards to the R70, i can pick it consistantly.. it took pracite, but once you master this one even the abus buffalo model and the next step up are easy to pick. Let me explain. First, pick guns and rakes and useless with these types of locks because, there are added what i call variables to the lock. Not only is it difficult to judge the tension due to the spring loaded cylinder you have security pins. The key to pick this lock is 1% pin pin picking ability, 1% knowledge of security pins and false sets and 98 percent tension control. See the spring loaded cylinder is ment to confuse the amount of tension. So the trick is insert pick and apply massive tension. Now you'll notice no pins will lift, now as you begin to lift the pins gently slowly reduce tension till it beings to move and your will feel and here and very destinct click, mostly because the shackle vibrates when tension is added. Once you feel the click immieiatly apply full tension, move to the next pin and repeat as stated above, eventually with practice you will set the pins on your first try. I seen a video or a kid picking an r70 buy sticking in a flat pick and rocking back and forth.. that is luck of the key code and not skill that will not consistantly open any lock you come across that fits this genere of discus locks. I will be trying that brinks lock as you mentioned sounds like a challenge.
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by HeadHunterCEO » 20 Mar 2006 18:04
a 2$ padlock(emkay)
a $7 barrel bolt
and a buck worth of big screws
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by Dent » 20 Mar 2006 23:56
"It has 6 pins, all 6 are spools, "
are you serious? I thought there was always a regular pin in as all spools can obviously cause problems with the plug rotating with no key or before its aligned causing problems with key...
forgive me if I'm wrong though....
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by sams choice » 21 Mar 2006 0:29
Dent wrote:"It has 6 pins, all 6 are spools, "
are you serious? I thought there was always a regular pin in as all spools can obviously cause problems with the plug rotating with no key or before its aligned causing problems with key...
forgive me if I'm wrong though....
i thought that too, till i read up on it, and i grinded one open. They are spools and the tops are smaller then the bottoms. I dont know how to describe the shape of them. They are spools but then to top parts have a dent in them to add and extra catch. Yeah, i think for a walmart lock this one is ok for a padlock.
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by sams choice » 21 Mar 2006 0:30
let me rephrase, the bottoms are small then the tops.
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by Mutzy » 21 Mar 2006 6:27
"See the spring loaded cylinder is ment to confuse the amount of tension."
It also helps the lock user to be able to pull the key out of the lock.
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by sams choice » 21 Mar 2006 16:27
Shrub wrote:Sams choice, youve lost me, you was a member when the post was made and youve posted on it so youve obviously seen it :?
Yeah i dont know. I was tired i guess? haha whatever.
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