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how to lockpick this one?

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

how to lockpick this one?

Postby lottobear » 20 Mar 2006 13:14

Hello. Im new to lockpicking however.
I would like to ask How do i lock pick this lock with a safety pin?
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Thats how the lock looks kinda.
Sorry for causing trouble :oops:
See ya :p
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Postby jordyh » 20 Mar 2006 13:24

You're not causing trouble at all.
In fact, it is allways good to see a new member ask questions.
Questions show a will for progress.

I don't think safety pins are the way to go, and allways recommend tools by Southord, HPC or Peterson. Improvised tools are for the pickers who already picked loads of times, for the sheer fun of it (for reference, see Digital_Blue, one of our admins, bump a lock with a banana).

Allthough i don't encourage picking with such improvised tools, as this might turn on you when you're practicing with better tools, i advise you to do the following things:

1: read the MIT guide.
2: read the guide on picking with bent paperclips (recently made)

Good luck picking,


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Postby lottobear » 20 Mar 2006 13:59

yeah thanks ill do that
Reason i dont wanna do it with equipments is because well.. they cost money and im not 100% if im fully serious about this
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Postby vector40 » 20 Mar 2006 14:06

Well, I can nearly guarantee that you aren't going to pick that particular lock. That's a very high-security mechanism.
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Postby lottobear » 20 Mar 2006 14:15

=( i see... well.. i guess its worth a try atleast..
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Postby Chucklz » 20 Mar 2006 14:36

Assa makes many different locks. I would say you would have an incredibly difficult time trying to pick the V10 or Twin even as an experienced picker. But you might be able to find a lock that does not incorporate so may high security features. From what I remember in posts from other members in Sweden, you should expect to find many 7 pin locks. I suggest attempting to find a 5 pin rim or euro cylinder that you can dissassemble and practice on. Usually the cheaper the better here.
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Postby p1ckf1sh » 21 Mar 2006 9:42

Chucklz wrote:I suggest attempting to find a 5 pin rim or euro cylinder that you can dissassemble and practice on. Usually the cheaper the better here.

Absolutely. The first lock I genuinely picked was a 8 Eurodollar cheap Abus Buffo. You can get locks that cheap at your local DIY market. While you are there you can pick up some sawblades and a set of cheap files, that should set you back no more than 20€ and it won't be a bad financial loss if you are not "serious" about it. With the files you can make some better picking tools from the sawblades (at least better than safety pins).

With buying a cheap training lock you also have the advanage of being able to take a look at the key bitting (the peaks and valleys in the peak that make up the "code" of the lock). When I was about to give I took a look at the key and noticed the bitting was something like 8-2-4-2-4. That way I could change my picking technique to get a first success (in case someone is interested: reverse picking was the way to go, pushed down all pins, gave hard tension, released tension, pins 2-3-4 went up, set them accordingly, gave the lock a light tap that released only 1 and 5, set the 5 pin by getting orientation from the 3 pin as they were same bitting, then went to give pin 1 only the slightest of touch, open). After that I was able to pick it using different techniques as well.

What I am trying to say, for every lock you come across the way of opening varies. The MIT guide will not as much teach you picking but rather the workings of a lock. From there on, an hour of putting that kowledge to practive is worth more than 10 hours of reading. Every lock is different and needs different approaches, and then again, every lockpicker is different and prefers different approaches.
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