Bump/Snap/Drill Proof Europrofile

[Scoobs]

Hello all, another newbie here. Firstly can I say this is a fascinating forum, can't believe I didn't find it earlier. I'm currently reading about the weaknesses in Europrofiles and despite trawling through recent and past threads I can't find a definitive answer (maybe because there isn't one!) to the following question:

- which make and model of Europrofile would you recommend to defeat your average scumbag criminal attacking a uPVC door?

What's the biggest risk out in the big wide world (well UK anyway) - is it snapping? Is it bumping? Drilling? I assume it isn't picking - they just wouldn't have the patience.

I'm aware of the Mul-T-Lock Break Secure and Squire Snapsafe locks which are designed to defeat snapping but is there much point in buying one of these if it can be bumped easily?

And vice-versa with some of the locks that are meant to be bump-proof ,e.g EVVA, Ingersoll (not sure if they do a Europrofile though).

Looking forward to the collective wisdom! Cheers.

[bonez]

hey scoobs welcome,

first off mate i think the biggest risk from crims are open windows
or unlocked doors!

mainly because most are oppertunist's same as thefts from vehicles
most are because items are left in view!

as for snapping,bumping or drilling advice goes i would'nt give advice
on open forum due to the nature of it.

maybe a mod can enlighten on the thread.

[jordyh]

Concerning thieves, they can be cunning, but in general they're just dumb, egotistic people who don't care for other's emotions.

A lockpicker/locksmith with a grudge is much worse.

Of course, there are exeptions to the rule, but that's my view on matters.


Yours,

Jordy

[TOWCH]

Check out Abloy Protec. I think the toool bump proof pdf shows some snap, bump, and drill resistant stuff.

[Chucklz]

From what I've read about uPVC doors, I would say the best way to secure them would be to fit a solid wood door.

[Scoobs]

If only I had an option to fit a solid wood door!! Unfortunately I'm stuck with a uPVC.

The Abloy sounds interesting...definitely bump proof, but I can't find anything about snap or drill.

The whole situation with uPVC doors and Europrofiles is pretty frightening, particularly considering 1)the general public thinks they are invincible, and 2) there's no easy answers to the weaknesses.

I guess it's a case of making the best of a bad situation....Abloy it is so far then.

[scampdog]

try using a sign that says, thieves will be prosecuted,being fixed to the door,backed up by a massive rottweiler like mine, never fails

[Chucklz]

The Abloys I have are all drillable, except it is very different from pin tumbler locks. You also have to defeat the hardened inserts on the newer ones. Not my idea of fun.

[Al]

Abloy do a Protec with fully hardened body. Drill and snap resistant.
Dom Diamant are pick, bump, snap and drill resistant too.

[SteveW]

Al

Dom Diamant are pick, bump, snap and drill resistant too

Cant wait to meet one of them on a lockout

[Shrub]

Just open the bird on the back door

[SteveW]

Shrub,

You should know by now that i am never that lucky.

The back door is more likely to a have three 110's and razor wire

[Shrub]

Reminds me of one of my first lockouts i went to, the front had a 110 and a X5 on it so i gulped and went round the back to find 2 110's lol

Its ok, i found a key for the front 110 under a plant pot and picked the x5.

Ive since been back to the house on another lockout and one of the back 110's had been replaced with a shiney new 3 lever and the other 110 was unlocked lol

[SteveW]

Now you see what i mean.. that was lucky

In London i seem to find that every property either has, crap locks, broken locks, or extreme locks, and i am always on the wrong side of em

Too many Banham's and Brahmer's

I think the least used tools in my kit are my mica and LBT

Safeventures have a windfall coming their way

[Shrub]

I am with you there, youve seen my LBT, its still in its wrappers lol, my mica isnt much differant.