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by What » 23 Mar 2006 0:41
Jason13 wrote:In a fair game yes the number is what we need but whats hard about the Brinks or Abus is that it uses high low pins and heavy spring in the plug thats all we need to sure that we got theese anti pick methods in the race 
no i mean the item number of the lock.....
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by sams choice » 23 Mar 2006 0:48
Jason13 wrote:What thread did you mention it and ok your in :D
The one about best $10 lock. I suggested the Brinks Shrouded padlock.
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by sams choice » 23 Mar 2006 0:51
What wrote:Jason13 wrote:In a fair game yes the number is what we need but whats hard about the Brinks or Abus is that it uses high low pins and heavy spring in the plug thats all we need to sure that we got theese anti pick methods in the race :wink:
no i mean the item number of the lock.....
The Item number is: 102-44831 Brink's Hardened Solid Steel Shrouded Lock
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by Jason13 » 23 Mar 2006 1:44
Well when im going to get it while at vegas im gonna try remember the number but i think theres only one Brinks discus ya 
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by lockedin » 23 Mar 2006 4:13
Actually Jason, they come in two different sizes. There is a smaller one than the r70. I think they have the same exact plug though.
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by LockNewbie21 » 23 Mar 2006 15:57
Uh oh am i competing the same lock? if were talking about about the r70 discus i learned how to pick that a little bit ago... i explained it in one of the threads, I hope were all talking about the brinks 6pin all security pin shackle gaurded lock... ugg somebody clarify with me, either way i am making some progress on it and must say for a small 10.84, the anti pick and the ability for this lock to go through a full size grnging wheel before oyu even get to the shackle i am more than impressed BUT SOMBODY CLARIFY!! whcih lock where competing with.
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by lockedin » 23 Mar 2006 16:04
Yeah, I know you're talking about the shrouded one. Jason is talking about the r70 discus that I think you already said you picked.
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by jimb » 23 Mar 2006 16:10
[quote="sams choice
The Item number is: 102-44831 Brink's Hardened Solid Steel Shrouded Lock[/quote]
I couldn't stand it so I went and bought this one today. Nope, haven't picked it yet. This one may be a little above my ability at this time.
I noticed that the bottom pins are security pins, at least the first pin in my lock is. Does this have security pins in the top also?
Has anyone tried to bump it?
Anyone know how to take it apart without doing damage to the lock?
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by lockedin » 23 Mar 2006 16:18
jimb wrote:I couldn't stand it so I went and bought this one today. Nope, haven't picked it yet. This one may be a little above my ability at this time.
I think this particular lock is turning out to be a headache for a lot of people. I can't wait to get my hands on it after I finish with this r70. 
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by zeke79 » 23 Mar 2006 16:28
This lock is actually pretty easy once you get the feel of things. All of mine have 4-5 top spools and 3-5 serrated bottom pins. As far as taking it apart, you have to drill out the pin on the right side of the lock and the cylinder will fall out.
Keep in mind that the tougher of these locks are based on the am4 american keyway, but there are some master m1 keyways out there in this lock aslo.
There is a short video of myself picking one of these locks on my website.
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by bprzybyl » 23 Mar 2006 21:48
No less than a 1/2 hour ago, I picked this bad boy. I got it tuesday night for picking on wednesday night while at the hospital (not for me). All last night I got nothing. I finally gave up. Tonight, I sit down to pick a yale lock only to find my tension wrench won't fit. Luckily, I brought my Brinks shrouded with me to keep up the fight. Within 10 minutes, "Kachink", shackle pops open! I say "within" because I had no clue on a real time. My tactic against spools- while picking, once it (plug) all of a sudden magically gives a bit of spin, then stops, I lighten up pressure on the wrench, then push up each individual pin. The spool that's sticking will make the plug turn a little when you push it up. Hopefully, you won't have to deal with the serrated bottoms because you won't push them up high enough to be effective. A very fun padlock nonetheless.
Also, what keyway do I have? (NOTICE: Serrations on pin)
So the only way to remove the cylinder is to drill? It looks kinda like an IC, there's no way to remove it without being destructive?
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by sams choice » 23 Mar 2006 22:03
haha congrads! I am still having trouble with mine.... 
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by lockedin » 23 Mar 2006 22:20
zeke79 wrote:Keep in mind that the tougher of these locks are based on the am4 american keyway
Is that the am4 keyway in that picture? I know that's definitely not the m1 because it looks more paracentric.
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by sams choice » 23 Mar 2006 22:24
i know that the key mine came with is an A1045 key.
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by devildog » 23 Mar 2006 22:30
These brinks padlocks are no where NEAR as hard as an American padlock--they may have the same keyway and 6 pins, but the tolerances are really horrible. Once you pick your brinks shrouded shackle a couple of times you'll get the feel of it and be able to pick it in under 30 seconds consistently. The brinks discus--sawtooth rake, then find the one spool that's binding and hit it with a hook whilst slowing letting up on tension until it gives, and bingo, you got it (just about the same thing works with an actual Abus Discus, ironically, except you need a small sawtooth rake, I use a falle-safe, to fit the keyway).
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