3 locks

[What]

my local lockie loaned me some locks to practice on, and out of 10 i have picked 7 the three i havent gotten are: the Biaxial, a baldwin lock, and an american 700 series padlock.

so, i know this should be discussed in the advanced forums, but i dont have access.

so, can someone please message me a few tips on picking the biaxial....

and maybe some tips on the other two locks.....

[n2oah]

Baldwin and American can be picked by light raking. FYI, these locks usually have security pins.
Tips on picking any biaxial lock will not be disclosed in the open forums.

[What]

Tips on picking any biaxial lock will not be disclosed in the open forums.

hence my asking for a pm...

[Shrub]

A pm is the same thing to be honest, if youve not got access to the advanced section the rules of the site suggest we are not to even pm you the info, sorry about that one.

[What]

how is that?

pm's are private messages, so how is that the same as posting the techniques on the public forums?

[sams choice]

It has to do with the information of the matter. It makes perfect since. I do not have access to the advance forums. But hint hint, do a search for it and im sure something will come up in the normal forums :roll:

[What]

holy spit, i just picked the medeco biaxial by alternately raking on the sides and using huge amount of tension....

is this just lucky?

[jordyh]

Isn't raking allways luck (not counting the tensioning)?

Must have felt great to open the devil though.
Congrats, and good luck with it.

yours,

jordy

[What]

thanks.

the reason i was asking if this was lucky was the fact that this is a high security lock....

and it shouldnt have opened by just raking on alternate sides.

right?

[jordyh]

To be honest, i have no experience with Medeco's, not even mentioning Biaxals.

But if you think of it, it's hard to get a feel out of any rake.
I mean, you just start scrubbing like a dentist and it pops open.
That's (in my book) raking.


Correct me if i'm wrong, and you probably are right on the tensioning, but i think it still was a somewhat lucky shot.

Yours,

Jordy

[Chucklz]

Just mount that sucker up in a display case in the picked position. Walk away, lest you can never do it again!

Jordy,
I have found that when raking with a bogota rake, I do have a sense of wether or not the lock is close to opening. It becomes more difficult to rake as more and more pins set.

[quickpicks]

Some are easy, most are hard. I have one that I can pick in under 5 minutes but the rest of the medeco's in my collection are very tough. Take a picture of it and frame it on your wall.

[What]

mine must just be an easy one, because i practiced with it a bit, by removing the last three pins and then picking it, then i replaced the 4th pin and picked it again....

so on and so forth...

but now i can pick it consitantly in 20 mins.

oh and btw, i got the baldwin lock open, it was a pain, i checked the pin setup, and it had 5 spools and a mushroom pin.

still trying on the American 700 series padlock....

[jordyh]

Wow, thanks Chucklz, i didn't know that. I guess i seriously need to make some bogota rakes. Never really thought of them as usefull.
Well, this just confirms my thoughts about this website: i keep learning every day.

What, it seems that it's not just luck but improving on your side, i'll eagerly await news of the American 700 getting picked.

Yours,

Jordy

[Octillion]

Jordy,
I have found that when raking with a bogota rake, I do have a sense of wether or not the lock is close to opening. It becomes more difficult to rake as more and more pins set.

I get the same feeling from raking with ordinary tools... Maybe bogota's produce more feedback, but I've never used one so I couldn't say. But generally, you can feel where pins (and even wafers) are set and where they still need to be raked with any pick.