Help and advice for a new starter

by **m3ssn** » 26 Mar 2006 7:58

I have been interested in keys and locks from being 2 years old. I have a collection of over 3000 keys and a number of various locks. I have many interesting keys like Bank night safe, BWB waterway key, various L&F master keys rental TV coin box key etc. I would be interested in purchasing bump keys for the Yale 1A and Union locks if anyone out there is willing to supply?

However I now want to progress this interest further and learn to "pick" locks. I have always had respect for the "engineering" in the lock & key and am looking for a few susgestions for starter locks for a beginner.

I have Yale 713's, Abus 60/30 & 65/50. Also a couple of other Abus locks. I have a set "jiggler" keys and these work well on office furniture and older cars. I have just purchased a fourteen piece lock pick set.
The PXS-14 lock pick set contains everything you need compromise most pin tumbler locks. Opens deadbolts, doorknob locks, most car locks and padlocks. Includes nine picks, a broken key extractor, four tension tools, six slip on vinyl sleeves and a leather case.

Getting really interested in this since becoming a bailiff and calling on the services of locksmiths to gain us entry to repos.

Would be grateful for any advice that you have for a virgin picker

Thanks Carl M3SSN

by **SteveW** » 26 Mar 2006 8:38

Hi m3ssn

Your best bet is to do a quick serch for the MIT guide, it will tell you everthing you need to know to get started. Its tucked away in the General Info section :wink:

Good Luck
Steve

by **illusion** » 26 Mar 2006 8:42

If you are interested in lever locks you'll find a guide about them in the 'Locks' section of this site. I'd suggest a 3 lever lock - the brand is fairly unimportant though.

If you want to try cylinder locks get something like an ERA cylinder - they give good feedback and are fairly priced. MIT is your friend, as Steve said.

hope this helps.

by **quicklocks** » 26 Mar 2006 8:46

by **Shrub** » 26 Mar 2006 8:57

Hes a hobby picker god-dam-it :lol:

by **jordyh** » 26 Mar 2006 9:29

For now he is, Shrub. Perhaps he won't be in a few years.
I for one am thinking of starting my own locksmith business in the Netherlands when i have my study on economics sorted out (and of course when i grow in skills, i don't want to resort to drilling).

Hobby + study + determination = potential income.

New lockies have to come from somewhere.

Yours,

Jordy

PS: Tools have arrived about a week ago, My sig should measure my progress. Thanks again.

by **quicklocks** » 26 Mar 2006 9:39

by **jordyh** » 26 Mar 2006 9:42

quicklocks wrote:
Shrub wrote:Hes a hobby picker god-dam-it

so was i i sometimes wish i still was

HA!

Proof!

by **m3ssn** » 26 Mar 2006 10:38

I am a hobby picker - However I might well be interested in following this through to a fully fledged locksmith. I currently am a Bailiff so we do have to break into units etc to repo them. I have always had an interest in locks and keys. Can't wait to start to learn the art and skill of manipulating locks with the picks M3SSN Thanks for all your advice todate

by **Shrub** » 26 Mar 2006 11:29

You know me i was only having a laugh.

If coming into the business youve got a long way to go and as said have a look at the start up thread on here when you come to the time,

Its no easy walk and it aint cheap either but hey you bailifs are all on such good money anyway :wink:

You have fun at the momment keeping it as a hobby :wink:

Jordy, have you got Han-Fey's paper on the Dom-IX?

by **m3ssn** » 26 Mar 2006 13:51

Yes enjoying the hobby although ahhhh to find my mul-t-lock's can be bumped. Bailiffs on good money???? We may be lol. Just enjoy the challenge of beating the lock. Still after a yale and union bump key though to play with my own locks

M3SSN

by **Demonithese** » 26 Mar 2006 14:05

hmm.. i purchased the set, and yet.. there is no auto picks in the set, except of course you can pick one side, and then the other.

by **m3ssn** » 26 Mar 2006 16:48

That's why I have my jiggler keys for the auto entry.....Still on most car repos we do we get the keys anyway. M3SSN

by **pizarro** » 28 Mar 2006 5:02

jordyh wrote:New lockies have to come from somewhere.

Well first you have a Mummy locksmith and a Daddy locksmith who love each other, and together they make a Baby locksmith. :wink:

by **jordyh** » 28 Mar 2006 5:45

Ooh, i think i've got that covered.
Dad likes to work with metal, mom repairs everything she can find.
Granddad was a lockie who actually adapted locks to keys by filing at the pins (and had a key copying machine untill my uncle sold it after he inherited it :evil:

).

Have i got lockie-blood?

Tell me, pleeeeeaaase!

:lol:

Yours,

Jordy

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