Medium Securtiy Locks

[mmilitiar]

New, Hey, I wanted to ask, not completley new to lockpicking, moving up a level, and got tired of reading and want real life experiences, , I've picked all the locks in my house fine, now im moving up to medium securty type locks, stores, school, type locks.

Is there anything I should know? any advice for a newb to these types of locks?

[devildog]

Schlage, American padlocks, Russwin, Sargent (will definately give you a challenge), Best SFIC, Yale.

Get mortise cylinders (don't waste your money going to home depot or Ace or someplace like that and paying $30 for a Schlage deadbolt when you can get a mortise off ebay for $5), and USE EBAY--it's the only place you're likely to find some of those, and you'll get them well under retail.

[n2oah]

The Schlage Everest is the epitome of medium security.

[nezumi]

If memory serves though, the everest is best dealt with with a 'special' tool (the bottom half of the key). Having never fooled with one, I'm not sure how easy it is to pick without that.

[quickpicks]

should be kind of easy....unless you go all out with a primus. Scorpion locks are fun medium security locks also.

[devildog]

Scorpions have a medeco mechanism, rotating pins, sidebar, if I'm not mistaken. I wouldn't call that medium security.

[SFGOON]

School, store type locks? When are you planing on getting to ATM machine, bank vault type locks? The way you worded your question is a little suspect.

[n2oah]

Scorpions have a medeco mechanism, rotating pins, sidebar, if I'm not mistaken. I wouldn't call that medium security.

No, they are more like the ASSA Twin; 5 sidebar pins with false noches, and special spools pins that get caught in the counter millings in the plug.

[mmilitiar]

School, store type locks? When are you planing on getting to ATM machine, bank vault type locks? The way you worded your question is a little suspect.

no, no , no, i was looking at the locks at my school and they have a diagnol cut for the key on the top part, so i didnt know what to call it(nw i know there "medeco")

[devildog]

Sounds like Medeco Keymark SFIC.

[mmilitiar]

yeah^ i found a key to one of the gym doors, thats how i noticed the diagnol key, it was trippy, i was like, holy shit, how does this thing work?

[quickpicks]

Scorpions have a medeco mechanism, rotating pins, sidebar, if I'm not mistaken. I wouldn't call that medium security.

Nope. They are medium security, they do have a sidebar, and it is not biaxial. They are a bit of a challenge but are far from high security.

[n2oah]

Scorpions have a medeco mechanism, rotating pins, sidebar, if I'm not mistaken. I wouldn't call that medium security.

Nope. They are medium security, they do have a sidebar, and it is not biaxial. They are a bit of a challenge but are far from high security.

Although it seems you have picked it, it is still considered a high security lock. Have you tried picking an ASSA Twin or Twin Pro?

[greyman]

Quickpicks, I'm interested to hear you say that Scorpion are medium security, meaning that you have been able to pick them. Can I ask if you have tried one or many and found that they are pickable?

I assume we are talking about the CX-5 6-pin with spool drivers and with a 5 slider sidebar. I picked one of these up the other day and found it to be a very well made/designed lock. How long did it take you to pick it, and would you be able to put an average time figure on that?

[quickpicks]

I would give ASSA a try but the locksmith here does not sell them yet. I have tried a scorpion but I can only get it with a few pins right now seeing as I just bought it. The locksmith told me they are not a high security lock because they can still be bypassed fairly easily. I am not only considering pick resistance for this lock. It has drill resistant points where the pins and sidebar is and it offers key control. It is a pin tumbler thus it can be bumped in larger masterkey systems. This is why I call it a medium security lock.