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Cisa 57110

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Cisa 57110

Postby n2oah » 27 Mar 2006 20:49

Here is my newest lock from eBay, a Cisa 57110. It would be nice if you could tell me what kind of mechanism this lock uses. I believe it is a complex warded lock. Anyways, poorly lit pictures are below.

The exterior side:
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The interior:
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The key:
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The key profile:
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The exterior face taken off:
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The plate over the levers taken off:
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The key turned halfway:
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I'll probably get around to mounting this lock once I find a decent piece of wood for it.

A 6 and 5 lever:
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Postby What » 27 Mar 2006 22:01

it looks like a lever lock to a certain extent, but im not sure...
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Postby lockedin » 27 Mar 2006 23:11

What was that lock securing?
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Postby n2oah » 27 Mar 2006 23:26

lockedin wrote:What was that lock securing?


It came new in the box. It's almost like a safe lock, since the exterior keyway is so elongated.
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Postby skold » 28 Mar 2006 7:03

It's a safe lock.

And also one of the lever kind.
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Postby bprzybyl » 28 Mar 2006 11:41

I COMPLETELY forgot about that lock! I was watching it back when it was in auction but neglected to bid on it. Now I'm kind of mad at myself, that's a pretty impressive lock!
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Postby illusion » 28 Mar 2006 12:08

You would have to pick the lock 4 times to fully withdraw the bolt. Once it moves forwards a bit it'll stop and settle up against the next fence. Seems like a good challenge. :)
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Postby n2oah » 30 Mar 2006 2:29

I went dumpster diving last night and found a nice, thick piece of wood to mount all of my HS locks on. I don't have the board painted yet, and it doesn't have a base either. Tonight, I mounted the Cisa. I plan upon mounting my Miwa EC deadbolt tomorrow, that is, if I can find that darn hole cutting drill bit.

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Notice that I stripped most of the bolts on the back, that is because the hardware wasn't very good.
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Postby mh » 30 Mar 2006 6:29

skold wrote:It's a safe lock.

And also one of the lever kind.


It's a lever lock, however, for some strange reason this particular type of lock is designed for house doors, not for safes.
cf. http://www.cisa.com/flex/cm/pages/Serve ... agina/1920

Apparently, some Italian customers are afraid that someone might use a saw on their deadbolts, so they have 4 bolts...

I've seen similar locks actually mounted in Italy; IMHO it was some kind of overkill for the not-so-strong wooden doors they were mounted on :)

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Postby illusion » 30 Mar 2006 12:20

Yeah, in Florence they have those all over the place on shop doors...
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Postby Shrub » 30 Mar 2006 12:33

They are quite easily opened with the correct tool :wink:
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Postby n2oah » 31 Mar 2006 15:59

So there are no criticisms about my installation? :)
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Postby mh » 31 Mar 2006 16:42

n2oah wrote:So there are no criticisms about my installation? :)

No, think you did that as well as any Italian carpenter could do that :D
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Re: Cisa 57110

Postby NKT » 20 Jan 2009 15:14

It's certainly a lever lock. The double bitted key is similar to those found on safes, but the lock itself is not. Against brute force, this is probably a very good lock, but against anyone who can pick a BS lever lock this isn't going to be a big challenge, once a centre tensioner is made.

The double bitted key is symmetrical, which reduces the security, as it only needs decoding once, and there are no anti-picks. Properly equipped, I'd rate these as ten minutes at most, NDE.
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Re: Cisa 57110

Postby Baloopaloop » 4 Jun 2009 16:52

I'd feel bad for the idiot that might try to kick that door down :mrgreen: owww :lol:
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