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What type of lock is this?

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What type of lock is this?

Postby parapilot » 30 Mar 2006 16:00

Hi all. Just got used to picking pin tumbler type locks, now my next challenge is my locker in the garage. I'm not to sure what type of lock it is, and i don't think it uses pins. Any ideas? and how do i go about picking it?

Here is a pic of the Key, and it has the number ZA0354 on it that helps

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Cheers
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Postby illusion » 30 Mar 2006 16:06

I guess it could be a lever lock...
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Postby 2hammers » 30 Mar 2006 16:11

That is definately a lever lock key. We have lots of them at work on lockers and desk drawers.

There is a curtain on most of these locks and I have an idea for a tool
to open them but I've yet to make it.
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Postby 2hammers » 30 Mar 2006 16:14

Here is a link to the locks for this key.

http://www.nukey.co.uk/LOCKS/Locker/locker.html
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Postby illusion » 30 Mar 2006 16:29

That would seem the same principal as the ones Western Electric use in the locks securing their phones.

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/wecolock/
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Postby 2hammers » 30 Mar 2006 16:42

Those look like the same principal but more complicated. The one I
have here has 7 levers, no anti pick notches and a long curtain( at least I think thats what it's called).

I will try to post some pictures of this lock tomorrow.

Jim
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Postby parapilot » 30 Mar 2006 16:45

So i guess its going to need a totally different picking method than the pin tumbler? The reading i have done about 7 lever locks says they are really hard to pick. I thought they would be cheap locks on lockers, and easy to pick.

Any advice or links on this type of lock, or should i give up and choose another lock around the house!!!

Cheers
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Postby specialist » 30 Mar 2006 21:28

You would probably be better off setting this one to the side for a while. After you have gotten the hang of pin tumbers (which shouldn't take long :) ) then it would be easier to defeat this type of lock. Happy Picking.

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Postby Shrub » 30 Mar 2006 21:42

The size of these locks make them a pain to pick with wires but luckily there is a master key that opens them all 8)
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Postby parapilot » 30 Mar 2006 22:59

A master key's no fun! I want to be able to pick this lock using picking tools if possiable. Any good guides / advice would be great, i have loads of time to practice at the moment! I can pick pin tumblers, after a fair bit of practice, mainly using a southord JPXS-6 which is great!

thanks
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Postby 2hammers » 31 Mar 2006 12:17

Shrub

have you seen one of these master keys? I only ask as there
are different sizes of these locks and I have seen a few different
lengths of keys.

I'm not doubting you mate I just can't think of how one key would
open them all.
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Postby Shrub » 31 Mar 2006 12:30

Not only seen but own :wink:

The za series has its own master key which i have but you can also get the bigger key and cut that down to work a few of the differant series types.

As the original question was about a za series lock i was commenting on that one but yes there are differant types but you can still have a master for them all.
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Postby Shrub » 31 Mar 2006 12:32

To the OP, have a read of illusions guide for lever lock picking and you basically have to do that but with a lot more wafers, i dont recall them having any false notches though so its more the size of tools that are the hinderance.

You need a wire that can tension the bolt and a wire that can lift each lever individually.
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Postby 2hammers » 31 Mar 2006 12:36

ok mate I think I understand. Anyway here are some pics of
the one I have.

http://i2.tinypic.com/so2vbt.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/so2vxg.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/so2w40.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/so2w7q.jpg

mine has hillcrest wb4014 stamped on it.

I take it only lockies can get those master keys?
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Postby TOWCH » 31 Mar 2006 16:25

It looks like kinda like a safety deposit box lock to me, but I've never heard of a safety deposit box lock with only one key.
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