My Biaxle arrived:O)

[LockNewbie21]

Finnaly after about a week i finnaly recieved my brass finish medeco biaxle. I bought it on ebay for roughly 30 dollars it came with two keys... there crazy to just look at, and also the id card for key duplication. Now the question. How do you go about picking it. I am fully aware of just about the entire lock.. i went on the site and got a scimatic of the lock itself. If this is for advanced forums then ignore the picking pocedure for one of these. And also, is there a medeco pick, made especially for picking medeco's that is commercially made. I heard of the 45 degree? curve on a hook or diamond. I might have the angle wrong but does that actually work? Ahh well until i get a couple responces i am going to go toy around with it, i already made a little wooden stand and mounted it in there.. i mean come on its a medeco Thanks for the help.


Andy

[illusion]

Yeah, search the site for a photo of the pick.

Discussion of the picking procedures is deemed advanced, but if you know how the lock works you should be able to figure it out.

Twist a half-diamond pick - do not heat it (unless the pick is high-carbon steel)

[nezumi]

Personally, I'd take it apart first, lower it to two or three pins and no sidebar. Once you've mastered it as a 'basic' lock, THEN worry about the sidebar. On four pins with no sidebar I'm struggling with it.

[illusion]

On three pins and a side-bar I'm struggling.... stupid lock.....

[devildog]

I think a cutaway of this lock would be invaluable while learning to pick it--don't suppose anyone has a biaxial (yeah, fyi, it's biaxial not biaxle) mortise cutaway they'd be willing to part with? They kept coming up on ebay for a while but I haven't seen any recently

[maxxed]

Personally, I'd take it apart first, lower it to two or three pins and no sidebar. Once you've mastered it as a 'basic' lock, THEN worry about the sidebar. On four pins with no sidebar I'm struggling with it.

I would suggest leaving the side bar in and start with two pins, after all it is a side bar lock and the challenge is to defeat it

[What]

On three pins and a side-bar I'm struggling.... stupid lock.....

seriously?

i have the biaxial down with 5 pins & sidebar(4-5 mins)...

and i have picked it 6 or 7 times with all 6 pins and the sidebar(20-30mins).

[LockNewbie21]

Well its a bit tricky i must say, i opened it once. It took.. i counted 4 hours and about god knows hom many tries, i wont brag becuase it was luck still felt good, i used a regular hook. It wasnt as bad as i thought i mean once you get used to them.. in like 5 min., they realively easy to read. But i am still learning. Medeco isn't really such a bad @$$ lock to me anymore. But still a great challenge


Andy

[Treeson]

Congratulations on your succesful pick!!!

I think it will be a while until I am ready for a lock of that caliber. I dream of the day... lol

Why is that some people on this forum say they can pick a Medeco in like 5 mintues, while many of the locksmiths of the site say to put them on a shelf for 10-15 years and take it out only when you are absolutely trained in every other aspect of picking locks???

Are some really that much easier, and are some so incredibly hard? Or do most people here probably lie and arent even able to pick it? Hmnn... The world may never know (From that how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop commercial).


Thanks for letting me rant... lol

Treeson

[LockNewbie21]

Thanks alot man, lol i believe that medecos are indeed very hard locks even for a pro. Lol i didnt want to have any resembelance of boasting thats why i said it was lock, i was about 2 int he morning and i am sitting in my room working on this lock and it funny really my tension wrenchs slipped a little and i tried to recover and my pick bumped up slightly and click it opened. Its no lie, lol hense my theory of good luck. I absolutly have no idea how it happened, i left it in the open postition for a little then clicked it back and now back to square one. I mean it feels good to pick it..even if it was a mistake gone good but i really want to try and be able to pick this thing everytime... i know i have a very long ways to go.. i am also considering gettin somethin a little less difficult. Well there you have it folks to picka medeco simple screw up your tension wrench attempt to recover and bam opens every time


Andy

[clayton1123]

not to burst anyones bubble but.............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtYgJOcx ... 20homemade

[Treeson]

Well there you have it folks to picka medeco simple screw up your tension wrench attempt to recover and bam opens every time

Thanks for the tip, now I know how to open these bad boys!!!

I think you should try it one pin at a time, and then add a pin, etc until you get up to the full 5 or 6. This way, when you do open it with all the pins, you can be positive it is skill.

I believe this is how What did it and he seemed to have been rather succesful... But, I don't own one of these locks so I am probably only able to be of the minorest assistance.


Good luck,

Treeson

[zeke79]

Even starting at 1 or 2 pins and moving up doesn't necessarily show a skill for picking medeco locks as you learn the aspects of the individual lock too well when doing that. It is good practice yes, but until you can pick up an unknown medeco cylinder and open it you really cannot call it skill can you?

[TOWCH]

More skilled than me anyway.

[bonesnapper]

To All interested I can get you all the pictures and exploded views on medeco ,I work for and authorized dealer and have my own manual for these locks I may also be able to provide mortise cyl.s possibly with keys most without as they are accounted for most of the time with the patented keysAny questions please drop a line!!!!!!!