Curtain Wheel Pick

[Peaky]

Perhaps if he had got a CB pick he wouldnt have ended up sleeping in a barn all night

[engelbert]

how about the curtain wheel that nigel rose supplies what are its capabilities i used it at the show in april and it was great on unions anything else i am unsure of?

[pinky]

i have this pick too as well as the bs upgrade, its fine for union without the No 7 lever in , old legge 1645 and union security, but it doesnt come close to the safeventures pick nor the chris belcher pick.

feeling is inferior to safeventures pick as is quality of pick, and it has same limitations, to get the pick plus the bs upgrade will cost you £235 with vat, and you still wont pick the majority with low levers nor the 7g locks, for a few pounds more buy the belcher 5g and 7g pocket curtain picks as these will pick most locks and most low levers.
or for less money buy the rb locktools curtain pick ( rimmer brothers) sold by sks and all wholesalers at £138 for 5g pick and another £41 for the 7g pick body, this will give you a sturdee pick for both 5g and 7g locks, though still wont get the low levers, chris b's pocket picks will get them low devils.

hope this helps, as stated the nigel rose pick is ok, but an expensive inferior copy of the safe ventures pick and dearer long term.

[chunk]

Is the Safeventures Curtain wheel pick the best on the market for ease of use and also the amount of variants it can be used on.

Thanks

I have the CB 5/5.5g and have used the Safeventures pick. The safeventures pick is a doddle to use the feedback is excellent as is the ability to feather the tension for antipicks. Within 10 mins of using the CB pick I had opened my first BS lock. The CB pick does take practise but surprisingly not as much as I thought although I have used the Francis pick a little and they are very similar in design so Chris' pick wasn't really new to me, I have to agree with others that the wire on the Francis pick is too bendy. As to which is the easiest to use, I'd say the Safeventures, the amount of varients Chris' pick. Funds permitting get 'em both

[jork45]

could somone be kind enough to explain the RKS and E series locks and what difficulties there are in picking them

[Shrub]

The curtains are not a full round, they have extra 'warding' on the hole you would insert the key or pick through, the keys are formed so they do fit but a standard round shaped pick will simply not fit in the hole.

Other than that i think they are the same as a normal 114 but i still havent got some to play with

[quicklocks]

as i take it the rks is the restriced keyway and the E series the levers are all low so you need a different wire and stem, the stem lifts the levers to the numdber one position giving enough room to get a wire under them to pick the blighters

[jork45]

Thanks guys,am I right in thinking the E series are chubb locks? And can you tell me who makes the RKS locks please,are these locks more difficult to pick than the BS locks,I was thinking of getting the CB RKS and E series pics but am told I wont come accross to many of these locks,has anyone else found this is the case

Cheers

[quicklocks]

chubb make the RKS locks

[EvoRed]

Doubt you'll come across many RKS's but you will come across 114E's. I would suggest if trading that a 114 pin and cam would be a better purchase for these as you should be able to open all 114 non-E's and E's with it, and it will give you more consistent results than the CB pick as requires less skill, and will provide you with a working key.

[jork45]

Cheers for the info,I have been looking at the pin & cam systems and plan to have a good look at the Telford show,I know safeventures do the pin and cams ,I also seen a 3G114 make-up kit from RB Medical,can you tell me what the difference is between the two,

Cheers

[quicklocks]

the rb medical one is just a make up key it doesnt pick or decode the lock. go for a pin and cam for the 114 but a cb pick will open most of the others you will come across

[jork45]

Cheers Quicklocks, I am just waiting for my CB picks 5g & 7g coming from M E Duffels and I will heed your advice on the pin & cam system and check it out at the show,plenty practice ahead for me it seems,I have the safeventures curtain pick and I am struggling to open an invicible for the first time, cant get the hang of these anti pick notches yet.

Thanks again

[EvoRed]

Search on picking ERA's, I'm sure there's many a post on here. They're pretty simple once you get the hang of them and the false gates aren't really a worry at all.

You will struggle to open the Invincible with the SV curtain pick unless it has all high lift levers, in which case lift them all high and it should open in about a minute.

[quicklocks]

jork45 you can decode a invicable with one run of the pick wire mate as to how to pick it and there are only two lever lifts high & low take one apart you will see what i mean
the cb will also open a 114 & 110 with practice!!!