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American Locks - What's the deal?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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American Locks - What's the deal?

Postby slipstich » 6 Apr 2006 10:34

New to picking. Can someone advise hardest to easiest locks to pick.

I have had no prob with Master, and a bunch of other over-the-counter locks, but i am getting killed by this American Lock Series 1205.

Thanks
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Postby sams choice » 6 Apr 2006 13:27

Try searching for it http://www.lockpicking101.com/search.php. Type in something like, easy locks, then hard locks. or just study up yourself on the internet and you can see what hard lock are and what easy locks are. It really depends on how you define hard and easy. Hard could be an EVVA 3ks, and easy could be a tiny lever lock on a diary. Or hard could be a 5 pin tumbler with spools, and easy could be a 3 pin tumbler with out spools. It is all up to you and what you think. Just read this forum and you will get a general idea about what is hard and what is easy without even seeing the lock in real life. Good luck!
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Allow Me to Begin Again....

Postby slipstich » 6 Apr 2006 13:50

I didn't realize I was posting in the super advanced high security lock world information section.

So, i retract my previous question.

Anyone find the American Government Security 5 pin tumbler lock difficult?
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Re: Allow Me to Begin Again....

Postby mh » 6 Apr 2006 17:10

slipstich wrote:Anyone find the American Government Security 5 pin tumbler lock difficult?


That one I don't have, but I tried another (6 pin) American padlock (2000 series), and it has serrated top & bottom pins as well as spools, and yes, I find it difficult. Pictures in my thread on a practice lock that was so easy to make (not to pick :) )

Maybe yours has similar features.
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Postby Chucklz » 6 Apr 2006 18:48

Most American locks are full of security pins. It is best to put them aside if you are just beginning and work on thinks like Kwikset deadbolts, Master 4 pin padlocks and develop a better feel for picking. Then try a Master 140, or a Brinks rekeyable padlock for some security pins.
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Postby raimundo » 7 Apr 2006 9:55

If you have a key to the american lock, feel the spring pressure that is counter to the opening turn. Some american locks have a return spring that fights against the tensor, and you have to find just the right tension to overcome that without binding the pins by too much pressure.
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Postby SFGOON » 7 Apr 2006 12:52

They are HARD. The Army uses them for a reason. With a highly warded keyway, and having a lof of security pins they are not fun. Stick with masterlocks and save the American for when you need a bigger challenge. Or bigger humiliation. :wink:
"Reverse the obvious and the truth will present itself." - Carl Jung
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