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Fine tools

Postby Buzzzy » 20 Apr 2006 10:27

illusion wrote:I am amazed bump hammers are considered 'fine tools' - it hits a key into the lock... you can use a screwdriver handle, in fact It's worked on every lock I've tried it on!

I will say that having a decent handle makes swinging it nicer, but that's about it!

Personaly I think it's all BS, but since others find a specific hammer to be more effective I'll hold back on outright doing it down.



illusion I agree with you in spirit.

This also makes me think of things like fishing rods, and golf clubs. A stick and a string or a walking cane would work. If well designed fishing rod could put more and bigger fish in the boat is it worth owning? If a driver could deliver could deliver longer and more accurate yardage is that a good thing?

All the videos I've seen with screwdrivers etc., have been with locks designed in Europe with much tighter specs. It seems to me that a lock with a higher tolerance would respond to a varity of strikers.

I am in the U.S.(The land of low tolerance),and have found, at least in some locks this can make them resist bumping. Having a tool that I can change dynamic forces on the fly, and find the "sweet spot" has proven helpful and more effective.

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layman

Postby Buzzzy » 20 Apr 2006 11:51

"From the 47 locks we opened the layman could open 22! These laymen are people who have no experience with locks whatsoever, yet still opened these locks in under three minutes."


Were these tests done with bump hammers, or screwdrivers?

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Re: layman

Postby lockedin » 20 Apr 2006 15:18

Buzzzy wrote:"From the 47 locks we opened the layman could open 22! These laymen are people who have no experience with locks whatsoever, yet still opened these locks in under three minutes."


Were these tests done with bump hammers, or screwdrivers?

It doesn't say. I know Toool itself says they prefer the Tomohawk for bumping, but that
toool.nl/bumping.pdf wrote:anything with not too much weight and preferably also some swing, such as a dull bread-knife held by the blade or the handle of a hammer could also work.

It would be cool if someone could test the effectiveness of a bump hammer vs. household items.
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household items

Postby Buzzzy » 20 Apr 2006 15:53

A banana didn't work. What if I froze it hmmmm?

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Postby sams choice » 20 Apr 2006 17:00

there are many different ways to do things. Let's say your a locksmith. If you use a homemade tubular pick to open something, it doesnt look too good. If you pick their lock with bicycle spokes, also doesnt look to fancy. If you show up to bump a lock with a nice looking commercial quality product, It gives the idea that this item is hard to obtain and use, and eases peoples minds. Also like using a coathanger to snap open a persons lock. It leaves the person with a nice feeling that you are a professional. Sure their are lots of ways to make things and to do things alot cheaper then purchasing them, but it does not look professional. hahah i am thinking of a locksmith using that dare ruler with two erasers electrical taped together. ahha that would be a sight.
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Postby wgl » 20 Apr 2006 18:12

sams choice wrote:Sure their are lots of ways to make things and to do things alot cheaper then purchasing them,
but it does not look professional.
hahah i am thinking of a locksmith using that dare ruler with two erasers electrical taped together.
ahha that would be a sight.


...this makes me think of the mouse-trap-powered plug spinner :D
now imagine THAT one used at a lockout :shock:

Though i actually doubt that commercial tools for bumping are superior to the basic housemade stuff
if it comes down to actually just opening a lock, not how it looks.

pinsetter's Tae Kwon Do thoughts are quite interesting, of course it makes sense,
but nevertheless from what i've heard non-commercial tools still do the thing,
so i wouldn't buy a special bumping hammer.

0,02 € ;)

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Postby thequantaleaper » 21 Apr 2006 15:25

As for bumping.. I perfer my handy brass lock in hand. Its heavy enough and having it in your hand gives you the right control over it. Besides it takes up nearly no space at all and doesn't look/feel as akward as having a foot long bumper in your hand
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Postby skedone » 27 Apr 2006 11:06

hi guys can u help is that site ok to send to the uk if so i will order today or do u know where i can get a bump hammer and three keys for uk locks in the uk ???
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bump hammer

Postby Buzzzy » 27 Apr 2006 11:28

I spoke with them the other day, they say they are shipping worldwide.

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Postby skedone » 27 Apr 2006 11:32

thanks buzz i will place a order then and see what happens
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Postby clayton1123 » 27 Apr 2006 18:05

I would like the hammer and all but until then the price keeps me at bay. :(
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price

Postby Buzzzy » 30 Apr 2006 23:56

price
I know it's the cheapest one out.
This can be an expensive hobby, if you want the cool tools.

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Postby Mollywirebandit » 2 May 2006 11:37

Just want to stick my oar in about what Sams choice said -

Let's say your a locksmith. If you use a homemade tubular pick to open something, it doesnt look too good. If you pick their lock with bicycle spokes, also doesnt look to fancy.


Well, there is the altenative opinion that if you can open someones front door with a coat hanger and a penknife they will be more inclined to let you give them advice on more secure locks!

Might even be able to pursuade them to upgrade their entire home security - at a reasonable cost of course! :D
"I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three."

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