Good Vibrations

by **kelly** » 19 Apr 2006 15:42

I'm sure everyone here is familiar with the 999, or bumpkey method of opening locks. Show of hands? Good. Moving on.
Usually, it would be assumed that we strike the bumpkey in the lock before turning. Pool Balls, Newtons Law, fun stuff. Deviating, has anyone here tried different levels of vibration instead? I'm sure we can all find a reason for not wanting to strike the key: Noise, preserving the asthetic integrity of the keyway, the coolness of building a vibrating bumpkey. *ahem*
I have a Sony Ericsson mobile phone with a chargeport which would fit something similar to this...http://www.ixap.com/images/products/fro ... -TC001.gif
The rectangular hole for my charger is just large enough to fit the end of one or two of my bump keys. Vibrating the phone with the chargeport buckled around the key yielded me very poor results, but from time to time would open the lock.
Better results came from taking appart an electric toothbrush and using a 9v powersource and small motor (as the small motor for the toothbrush burns out before the lock is open. new 9v motor from RadioShak, 5 dollars).
Anyone else try anything like this? I suppose it's around the same thing as making an electric pick gun for raking and whatnot, but I figured I'd throw it out there.

-Kelly

by **pinsetter** » 19 Apr 2006 15:53

not exactly the same thing, but I'm trying to make an electric pick out of one of those 110v electric engravers. I just need to make a longer needle for it and it will be done and I can try it.

by **SFGOON** » 19 Apr 2006 17:56

Any pictures? The CIA has a device that was a basically a bump key/pick gun combination. You put a key blank on the end of the device, applied torque, and pulled a trigger. Your idea sounds comparable, but the added dimension of vibration could result in a silent, fast opening device that requires very little training to use. Let us know how your development goes. Intersting idea.

by **Shrub** » 19 Apr 2006 19:10

Its been thought of before but ive not seen any results so i will be interested to hear where this leads.

by **Gordon Airporte** » 19 Apr 2006 22:36

I'm just trying to work out what the idea is here. You can already get electric guns with variable vibration which strike the key pins and knock the upper pins above the shear line, and you can already do bump keys which strike the key pins and knock the upper pins above the shear line... So the gain here would be something like
A.) It's easier to position in the keyway because it uses the real key profile
B.) You don't need a seperate tool to apply tension.

So this is like the reciporicating bump key someone suggested earlier? I think they wanted to use a jig saw...

by **jimb** » 20 Apr 2006 7:27

Gordon Airporte wrote:I'm just trying to work out what the idea is here.

I was thinking more like an electric rake.

by **pinsetter** » 20 Apr 2006 8:46

hmm....the jigsaw idea has a bit of promise. It would be easy to gring a jigsaw blade down into a rake or any other kind of pick, and I've seen small palm sized jigsaws before. Hmm....a small cordless would be ideal. That's a thought to run with for sure! And heck, if it don't work you're only out the cost of a jigsaw blade and possibly a cheap jigsaw, which would always come in handy anyway!

by **vector40** » 20 Apr 2006 21:56

Any of you actually been to Good Vibrations in San Francisco? Ray?

by **raimundo** » 21 Apr 2006 10:20

Uh thats a b boy song right? is there a place with that name, my sanfrancisco experience was all late 60's, (stationed at letterman hospital on presidio, and early 70's (working for cernys locksmith) So what is this good vibrations place, brandon, tellus about it.

by **Gordon Airporte** » 21 Apr 2006 21:07

Good Vibrations is a place that sells ... things that vibrate [smiley wiggling eyebows]. Some of their items have locks as well... I wasn't going to say anything :-)

by **vector40** » 21 Apr 2006 21:11

It's a Bay Area store (there are a few now) that sells sex toys and paraphernalia. (Might be a co-op?) Nice, progressive place with good people, far as I'm told.

by **mrhappy** » 22 Apr 2006 7:16

Actually that may work pretty well, on the lock i have i can use my bumpkey in the normal way. Or if i pull the key out slowley while jiggiling it it also catches. Could just be the configuration of the pins but jiggiling may work.

by **mrhappy** » 22 Apr 2006 7:48

Why cant you edit your posts? Anyway, i took a quick vid of using a bumpkey vibration method. I love my new cell phone.
http://www.science73.com/M1.3gp

by **quicklocks** » 22 Apr 2006 8:28

i can edit my posts and yours :wink:

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