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by pinhopper » 22 Apr 2006 17:03
Its a shame I didn't discover this forum until it was too late. I did the dirty and got a Dyno Kwick Pick. I then proceeded to get a Wilko Cylinder (gold yale style).
My question is, can i have some advice on how to use this effectively, i have used the search button and found that everything seems to get cut-off and go off topic, although there are people who say these are effective, they dont mention what method they use.
If I at least get to 'pick' one lock with this, then I will be sure to get myself one of the cheap small-piece sets mentioned in other threads.
Im glad to be aboard what seems like such an intresting forum, I am a dab hand in some other topic areas of forums and i dont want to seem like that classic stereotypical noobie that comes round here. I have used the search button, and i have read the MIT guide  just enquiring personal success methods with this tool, as ive yet to strike it lucky.
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by Gordon Airporte » 22 Apr 2006 23:16
I actually just recieved one of these as a gift. As far as I can tell, it's only an S wrake in a fancy body. Presumably you can get other heads for it, although mine didn't come with any (and the wrench is missing.)
Search for and read the MIT guide, then check out any threads on wraking technique.
Chances are you will be able to open several locks with it, but since it's no good for single pin picking you'll really have to buy a proper set to advance.
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by LockNewbie21 » 23 Apr 2006 4:24
You can get diffrent heads like a hook or l rake for the quick pick? where at???
Andy
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by pinhopper » 23 Apr 2006 6:03
I think you can make your own from what I gather in other threads, im also wondering if maybe the spare heads on lockpicks.com for the pen pick will fit the quick pick.
Thanks for the advice, ill try looking up raking, although when I do, most of the media that comes up is with other tools apart from a S-Snake. 
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by pinhopper » 23 Apr 2006 6:19
Sorry to double post, but i couldnt find an edit button.
I have just done some research, hooray. And discovered that the lock I am trying to pick, is a rim Cylinder. I bought it from the UK Store Wilinson's.
Is there a particular secret when using a Snake on this type of lock??? Are they sensitive to tention???
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by illusion » 23 Apr 2006 6:28
Dunno.. is there a brand name on the cylinder?
I have dozzens of these and they all rake.. except for one Yale one that refuses to... or even pick for that matter.
I would suggest you buy a normal set of picks to be honest, and learn to single pin pick. I learnt to rake first, and could do it well, but you need to be able to single pin pick also. When I started to single pin pick I found I gained far more control ver tension, and subsequently my raking improved. I guess the biggest issue with raking is resisting the urge to rake a lock open in the middle of pin picking it.
Use light tension on the wrench, and if that doesn't work use slightly heavier tension untill it pops.
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by pinhopper » 23 Apr 2006 6:50
Thankyou for such a decent response. Im just about to have another crack at it now, it doesn't appear to have a brand name. Just W Security, (which stands for wilko i believe).
I will invest in a proper pick set, but as always im sure noobies will get sucked into the gimmicking and apparent ease of use of this tool, I would like to get into single pin picking aswell, rather than just striking it lucky (or not so lucky in my case) with raking.
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by pinhopper » 23 Apr 2006 7:03
Here is a picture of the lock in question, on my practice board, any suggestions would be much appreciated.
The most pins im able to fix is 3, i know this because on very slowly releasing the tention on the wrench i can hear 3 clicks.
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by pinhopper » 23 Apr 2006 8:08
OMG i just done it, i picked my first lock. Well raked, a squire padlock !!!!!!!!!
But still cant crack that one above
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by illusion » 23 Apr 2006 8:12
Haha... is it a laminated one? I have one of those with 4 pins - it's nice to rake.
Hmm... as far as I can see you should be able to open that Wilkinsons lock... I have one of those stores not far from me, and I'd hardly believe they make difficult locks. 
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by pinhopper » 23 Apr 2006 8:47
Yeah its a No.35 one.
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct.asp ... n&PID=5001 Like here "an immensely strong lock" hahaha.
Yeah i still can't open this wilko lock and i have no clue why, I have tryed varying my tension, and different styles of raking, im still stuck at 3 pins. I cant believe the cheapy shop has me beat!
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by CVScam » 23 Apr 2006 8:58
A friend of mine just got one of those and I had to try to teach him how to use it. He had good sucess with 4 disk wafer locks, Master Lock #1 and an easy Kwickset deadbolt. Then he tried to pick an ilco cylinder, he was putting WAY too much pressure on the tension wrench. I gave him a spring loaded tension wrench and he could open it, lucky it does not have a high low set up.
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by pinhopper » 23 Apr 2006 9:01
Yeah i think this should be a good little tool once I get the hang of it. Maybe this is just a particularly stubborn, or poorly engineered cylinder, i mean it does take a little pressure opening with the actual key
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by Raccoon » 23 Apr 2006 15:33
Buy some graphite powder to lubricate the lock.
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by pinhopper » 23 Apr 2006 15:38
I did put some gun oil in there, and it does seem very easy to open with a key, so im not sure thats the issue
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