German built public storage padlocks...

[Krypos]

alright, so i had a public storage unit and some dumb thief took some bolt cutters and cut the shackle on like 30 locks a few years ago, i no longer use them. before i left however we had to wait til we had a place to put all our stuff. so we kept using the storage place for a bit longer til then, to stay safe we bought a $15 round padlock. it is made in germany, has a hardened shackle (it says so, even tho it is assumed) is stainless steel and has four holes on the back. the shackle is round (like a circle round) and one of the four holes is right behind the plug and connects to it. the pins go down from top and there are about 4-5 of them. the key will not come out of the lock if it is open, only when it is locked. the entire lock is a big circle. the key says ABUS germany then some squiggly lines all around it.

to the point- i cannot pick it. mostly because there is not enought room to get anything in. and there is no place one could shim it. it is MY lock i own, it is not on anything, i will post picture soon hopefully. any suggestions or techniques to try are greatly appreciated.

thanks all!

-krypos

[Shrub]

Is it ones where the shackle is curved and when opened the shackle rotates into the caseing?

A pic will be the best thing to do.

[Krypos]

ya it goes into the casing like thing. lemme go finish getting pics, thanks for fast response shrub...i know your all over the place on this site...pretty knowledgeable from what ive read so far.

[Shrub]

I think what you have is a Abus Discus and youll find it has security pins in it (probley 2) and i think youll struggle opening it unless your a reasonable picker.

If you want entry quickly youll have to cut it i think but if you have time stick with it.

If you can get a simular key copied and then file it into a bump key you may get it open that way but i have no experiance bumping them im sorry.

[Krypos]

ok it gonna be tonight before i can post some pics....i need to charge some batteries fro my cam. ll the rest of the batteries in my house are pure (expletives deleted for moderator). so it will be like 5 or 6 hours before i can post pics, i have to work. will PM ya if ya want when i post em?

[illusion]

They will rake fairly easily I have found, but single pin pick easily once practiced upon.

Is it like this one?



Southord slimline picks willopen this lock fine.

Cheers.

[Shrub]

No need to pm i will see the update in the list when you do it but i think pretty much all the info you need is here to be honest.

[Krypos]

it looks just like that but different brand. three questions:

1) what is bump keying? how is it done?

2) what are security pins? how do they work?

3) what if i do not have a slimline pick?

also, i have the key. its not so much that i need to get it open so i can use it, its that i only have a few locks to practice on cuz im new to it, and thats one of them. so is this abus discus lock something that is hard to pick then? the keyhole fro mine is pretty small.

[Shrub]

Ah i thought you was locked out.

Try a differant lock to play with and dont play with ones you rely one ie in use.

A slim line pick is pretty much just a euopean style pick and not a us style one, not sure where in the world you live (fillout your profile) so i dont know what youll have anyway but if you dont have one buy some and if you dont want to make some.

As for your other two questions,
1) what is bump keying? how is it done?
2) what are security pins? how do they work?

The best thing to do is have a read around site on the subject useing the search button as they are pretty big subject.

Bumping is where a specially adapted key is inserted to the lock and hit with somthing like a screwdriver handle and security pins like spool pins are specially made pins to thwart picking.

[jordyh]

Some find Abus discus locks hard, some don't.
Slimline picks are preferred, but not needed, a snake or hook pick will do just fine when you insert a thin wrench.

Security pins are pins that are made (cut in a special way) to make lockpicking harder.

Bump keying is a specific way of opening a range of locks without a lot of practice with a pre-cut key that fits all of the wards of the locks. 'Bumping' and 'bump key' should do well in the search engine.

There are several reviews on discus locks, a search on the word 'discus' should reap some nice rewards.


Good luck picking, and have fun with the discus, they are fun.

Yours,

Jordy

[Mr. Lock Pick]

thats a yale not a abus

[illusion]

STOP SPAMMING THE FORUM!

I know full well it a Yale padlock, and hence I wrote: "Is it like this one?"

Now stop posting and sodd off unless you have something useful to say.

[jordyh]

thats a yale not a abus

We're all aware of that fact.
He mentioned the abus himself, just look at the posters comment.
Also, Abus is (one of?) the first manufacturer with the discus.

Yours,

Jordy

[LockNewbie21]

Read my guide i wrote about abus discus locks.. and if you want a good tension wrench use a wiper blade put it in the top part of the lock cylinder, you knw the part whre it is slightly diagonal, then put in the wiper blade and bend over and there you go perfect tension wrench for a discus lock, the you can use standard picks on it. Once again i have this in my video.. but i am still trying to find a place that sells software to convert it to my PC.

Andy

[Krypos]

ok got some pics- hope i do this right.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/k ... d19490.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/k ... 30d883.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/k ... bc3124.jpg


hope this does something...although a lot has already been answered...oh well...here they are. (again i hope)

i guess just copy paste url- i suck at this part. dang.
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