Plastic key pick????

by **LockNewbie21** » 29 Apr 2006 5:12

What year cars did they make these for i honestly never heard of it, i have a 96 chevy cavalier, was my car suppsosed to come with these? i hope not i didnt get any

Andy

by **p1ckf1sh** » 29 Apr 2006 6:05

Mutzy wrote:Arrgh... ^ Holden Commodore. <censored> lack-of-edit-button...

Holden? WTF is that? I know Opel Commodore, is that Holden just another brand Opel sells their cars in Australia, just like they are called Vauxhall in Great Britain?

by **raimundo** » 29 Apr 2006 10:26

I just got done posting to someone who put a photo of what they said was their door key on some other thread, then maxed tells of cutting a key by looking at it through the window of a car. I am not so sure that giveing the key to the customer/friend, was a good idea, unless the person is one of us, he may not fully understand. I believe maxxed may have neglected to say that he turned the lock with a split tensor (wishbone) and even if his friend watched, that does not mean he will remember when it comes up again a few months or years from now.

by **maxxed** » 30 Apr 2006 0:22

I agree with raimundo about the giving the customer the plastic key, in this case it was a situation of who asked. I do auto openings by sight reading keys whenever I can, that way I leave a spare metal key with an impressed customer
I did forget to mention that the lock on the Nissan was turned with a strong tension wrench.
I carry the plastic to make templates not keys

by **LostGunner** » 5 May 2006 15:59

I know a Geo Metro (got up to 50MPG by the way and was a 94 I believe) we had, had the backup plastic credit card key that could be used in emergencies. Which I found convenient because I locked the keys in with the engine on at least twice... D'oh!

by **SS454** » 6 May 2006 22:53

There is a UK company I deal with at work that sepcializes in plating, and various finishing products.
They also sell a hobby kit called Alumilite. They sell it at Hobby Lobby and such.
It's basically a resin molding kit.
But the stuff is pretty strong. And I was wondering......if you made a key blank out of the stuff, which would be esy to do, it might be much easier to file or cut a fitting key for a lock with it.

http://www.alumilite.com/

by **maxxed** » 6 May 2006 23:38

That looks like a great product, I'm not sure how a blank made from it would assist in the decoding of a lock. It would be interesting to see the results of someone trying. :wink:

hint hint

Do you think that alumilite would make a good pick handle?

by **SS454** » 6 May 2006 23:53

maxxed wrote:That looks like a great product, I'm not sure how a blank made from it would assist in the decoding of a lock. It would be interesting to see the results of someone trying. hint hint

Do you think that alumilite would make a good pick handle?

Yeah, I'm not sure how it could be used to decode a lock either.
I guess some locksmiths use a method to custom make a key in a lock. They use a lighter to put black soot on the key blank with the correct wards, and then somehow use a trial and error method for custom making a key from the blank.

To be honest, I'm not really sure how it works. But I though using the alumilite as a blank would speed up the process just by being an easier material to shape, yet strong enough to work as a temporary key.

by **vector40** » 7 May 2006 2:18

Impressioning.

by **maxxed** » 8 May 2006 1:09

I don't think that I would actually make a keyblank from alumilite because the brass ones do work well for impressioning. This process does require a keyblank capable of withstanding a bit of twisting.
I usually impression pin locks and read wafer locks, on more difficult wafer locks I combine the two methods.

by **raimundo** » 8 May 2006 9:59

The twisting could be done with a split tensor, but the bumping might be the problem. maybe not if you stay with the capabilities of the material and read the marks correctly, if you simply cut down to the next pin depth, rather than work your way down with more impressioning, that would speed it up and eliminate a lot of stress on the plastic.

by **mckutzy** » 8 May 2006 23:08

i was waiting for another one of these plastic keys posts again. when i first came here we were talking about these keys. a good type of plastic is probably lexan: polycarbonate. tho a crazie carpet sounds interesting. :lol:

by **maxxed** » 17 Jun 2006 22:39

My brother - in -law came through town with a freind who, after he found out what I did, tried to tell me everything he knew about locksmithing.He said that the plastic credit card keys in the Ford manuals could be inserted blank into an ignition and you just had to liggle it until the vehicle started. I told him that the plastic key needed to be cut as a duplicate and was there for emergency use only. This guy tried to convince me that he has done this and went on to say that Ford needed to remove these from the manuals because theives could break into the vehicle and use these keys to steal it.
I had a good laugh over this and thought I would share it.

by **Shrub** » 18 Jun 2006 18:11

Do you have the uk firm where you get this stuff, its some good stuff to keep in mind if i need it for other projects.

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