Kryptonite New York abloy type locks.

[Heliox]

I was in the local bike shop yesterday and encountered the new Kryptonite locks for the first time since the bic debacle. They seem to be replacing their locking mechanisms with 4 disk abloy type locks. Does anyone have any more detailed information on these? They appear to come with 3 keys. One of the keys has an LED light in it. I need a better lock for my bike, so I may go ahead and drop the $75 on one, but I'd like to hear from anyone else with experience with them first. If anyone actually has any experience with them.

http://www.kryptonitelock.com/inetisscr ... em&pgrp=20
http://www.kryptonitelock.com/inetisscr ... em&pgrp=20

[Woofcat]

Maybe because i live in a small town or maybe because my bike isn't worth that much more that 75$ but i can never see myself spending $75 on a bike lock.

[lockedin]

Even with the Bic fiasco tubular U-locks remain very much in use at my university, and there hasn't been any surge in bike-theft. I think it was over-hyped since the bic trick only works on certain low-quality and cheap tubular locks. Personally, I tried it on my off-brand tubular lock and I couldn't get it to work. I know of others that have had the same experience. By far the bikes that are most often stolen are the ones that have locks other than U-locks (i.e. chains) and cutting remains the most popular method.

[CVScam]

I use a 5 dollar bike lock because I have never bought a new bike in my life. Almost any kind of bike lock is good except for those cable ones. If your riding a bike worth thousands dollars a determined bike theif will steal it no matter what you use. I saw video of an espencive decoy bike LOCKED on a busy New York street the theif used a set of bolt cutters in broad daylight and rode away till he got arrested by the cops.

[Heliox]

Maybe because i live in a small town or maybe because my bike isn't worth that much more that 75$ but i can never see myself spending $75 on a bike lock.

You'd be more likely to spend $75 on a bike lock if you bike cost $2000

(or $7000 http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkMode ... 6SWorksMTB )


I'm really more interested in the locking mechanizm here than the ability to keep my bike from being stolen. I assume it's equivalent to a 4 disk abloy with sidebar and worse tolerances. I just don't know, which is why I'm asking.

[zeke79]

I would likely look into an abus granit plus lock for this application. They make a bicycle lock or atleast they did at one time as I have one for myself. The 4 disks is lacking if you are concerned about picking. The S&G railroad locks were 4 disk if I recall correctly and were pretty easy to open with the right tools.

If it were myself I would look for a quality lock made with the best materials such as boron alloy shackles and a matching chain of boron alloy. Brute force is likely what will be used in the event someone tries to steal it.

[eric343]

According to Han Fey, the RotaLok is the way to go. (If I remember correctly: In his opinion as of last April, it's the most secure padlock in the world next to the S&G 833C. He also said the corresponding chain has the best thief-resistance to weight ratio on the market -- and highest thief-resistance, period.)

http://www.rotalok.com/

The housing accepts standard Euro Profile cylinders, not SFIC like stated elsewhere on the forum.

[zeke79]

If you are going to go down to a standard format padlock then I might suggest picking up a surplus S&G 831 from ebay. They can be had for anywhere from 20-60$. You should pick one up that is supplied with atleast 2 operating keys and preferably a control key also.

[Eyes_Only]

I think I saw Master Lock doing the same thing with their U-bolt locks. I'd be in a mad rush to get my hands on the Abus Granit decoding tool but with only 4 discs theres gotta be a more "economical" way then spending nearly $500 for the tool from multipick

[TOWCH]

2 wires if you've got the skillz.

[eric343]

Have you done this?

[conker]

wow, quite a job. I would look up how they look inside, just to see what you are up against. maybe even check out your local locksmith for pointers and ideas for tools. good luck.

[TOWCH]

Have you done this?

Nope. I don't have the skillz or the patience.

[devildog]

If you're looking to spend that much for a bike lock, heliox, just get an Abus Granit bicycle lock; I guarantee you that one of those will be MUCH more secure than anything Kryptonite could possibly make:

Abus Bike Locks


Here, I did a quick search and found a site that sells some of 'em so you can get a quick idea of what they retail for:

http://www.gear4bikes.com/acatalog/Abus_Security.html

It's a UK site but it still gives you a rough idea; I ran it through an online currency calculator and the 58.99 British Pounds Sterling they're asking for one of the Granit U-Locks comes out to $110.64 U.S.--U.K. lockies who know the Granit range please comment on about what the prices should be. Dude, I'd much rather pay 110 for a nice Granit than 75 for a POS Kryptonite (and Kryptonite is a POS, no matter how you slice it ).

Oh, and BTW, I see these Abus bike locks come up pretty frequently on Ebay and they usually don't go for anywhere near what they seem to retail for, even the new ones, more like $50-90 depending...

[LockNewbie21]

7000$ for a bike? does it come with a small man to push when you get tired? Geez buy a car, and if you cant drive wait then drive, my 200$ dyno air freestyle bike back in the day lasted me 5 years, then i got a car and never walked or used any leg uscle ever again.







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