Medeco question

[LockNewbie21]

I have my biaxle that i got from ebay, i only opened it once by accident.. read my other thread. But i read that cam locks are a little more simplified that the biaxle, meaning theres no upper pins, just the angled cuts and sidebar. Since my biaxle is far beyond my skills in lockpicking, would a cam lock be a little better as far as for feeling and the turning of the pins? I just seen a cam lock on ebay and thought i might buy it. Any info i'd appreciate thanks Also a local lockie i selling everest cylinders, are they also pretty challenging?

andy

[Pickermeapie]

Medeco Cams are still difficult but not like the Larger Bi-Axial. They have no top pin, correct, but they have holes in the pins for the sidebar insted of slots. But yes, it is definately easier, you only have to worry about the sidebar.

[LockNewbie21]

Yup thats what i was looking for, i know it still would be difficult, i just want something to practice pin rotation and feeling them click into the sidebar, I looked at it as just knocking a few thins out of the biaxle. i also looked at the cam lock and it looked pretty easy to make a cut away, anyone else attempt at this and succede? But i am going to bid


Andy

[pinsetter]

I thought on most sidebar applications you can't actually "feel" anything "click in"??? It is my understanding that this very thing is what makes sidebar locks so difficult?

Ahh, anyway, any further discussion would probably just get the thread locked as it is probably advanced material.

[LockNewbie21]

Lol shows much of noob i am at medecos yea an details you can leave out i bidded on one, i want to try and get this through trial and error, i applied for the advanced forums but i think i will only look how to do it if i get colpletely stumpped, i want to give it atleast a solid month or two no matter how much hair i pull out and if i jsut cant get it i will look for pointers. Thanks for your feebback guys.


Does anybody suggest an everast cylinder as a pretty good advanced or intermiediate lock? I know theres that side catching pin and just use a a key with the top cut off connected to your tension wrench.. is there a away jsut to pick it without the key? Well anyway that was my second purchase of a lock i was thinking of any feedback appreciated



Andy

[zeke79]

I dont consider the everest high security so I will help out. The everest check pin can be set with a short hook such as a falle safe no.3 . You just need to set it when normal pins stop setting. I have several everest locks and they all pick easily even without the "key tools".

[LockNewbie21]

Thanks zeke, are there any other i shouldnt say advanced locks but a tad bit easier than a medeco lock out there?


andy

[What]

you should try picking the biaxial w/o the sidebar, that will get you started on the right path....

[devildog]

hm, surprised no one mentioned this, best place for everest info. : http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/everest/

The rest of the area about locks on his site also has a lot of good info., the paper he put together as basically a beginner's guide to lockpicking is generally considered better than the MIT guide, and he has a lot of really nice photos.

[bpc293]

i have never done my everest with out my tool i made. thanks zeke now i have something to screw with. i thought it was advanced so i never asked.
i like this lock stuff you can learn something new everyday.

[Blink]

you should try picking the biaxial w/o the sidebar, that will get you started on the right path....

This is what I did with my Medeco, but by now I know the binding order so it isn't a problem. Now, with the sidebar is a completely different story, it's just one big headache . 2 pins and sidebar = No go.