Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

How to open SECOM 550S

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

How to open SECOM 550S

Postby gang_wheell » 12 May 2006 12:50

Hi everybody,please help me how to open this padlock,what lockpick i must use,what is structure of this secom
Image

Image
gang_wheell
 
Posts: 43
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 11:48
Location: Bulgaria

Postby quicklocks » 12 May 2006 12:58

cross pic or a hook will open that, try a 2 prong tension wrench aswell
quicklocks
 
Posts: 1014
Joined: 10 Sep 2003 9:04

Postby ThE_MasteR » 12 May 2006 13:01

Wow, how many sets of pins are in there ?
ThE_MasteR
 
Posts: 1128
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 11:11
Location: Canada, Montreal

Postby gang_wheell » 12 May 2006 13:06

12 pins are there 3x 4pins
gang_wheell
 
Posts: 43
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 11:48
Location: Bulgaria

Postby ThE_MasteR » 12 May 2006 13:15

Ouch.

Do you have the key ?
ThE_MasteR
 
Posts: 1128
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 11:11
Location: Canada, Montreal

Postby gang_wheell » 12 May 2006 13:17

No,i try to open it but it is not easy
gang_wheell
 
Posts: 43
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 11:48
Location: Bulgaria

Postby ThE_MasteR » 12 May 2006 13:19

Did you try going to a locksmith and get a blank key for it ? Maybe you can make a bump key.
ThE_MasteR
 
Posts: 1128
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 11:11
Location: Canada, Montreal

Postby gang_wheell » 12 May 2006 13:28

No.but i want to open it am lockpicking,not bumping
gang_wheell
 
Posts: 43
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 11:48
Location: Bulgaria

Postby illusion » 12 May 2006 13:49

Cruciform lock.. haven't seen a padlock with this mechanism before. :)

If you can make a dual tensioner then your best best is applying tension and either raking or SPP each pin.

Raimundo came up with a nice idea to make picks for these when I started a thread a while ago. Since I have the instructions to hand I'll post them again for the benefit of those who don't know.

In a long forgotten thread, Raimundo wrote:Make a pick Take two 7 inch long sweeper bristles, bend them together to a 90 degree angle, put a round tool handle inside the angle and bend them til the ends are parallel, (the tool handle keeps the inside piece from folding sharply and cracking,) clamp a locking plier down hard on the stack of 4 ends, leaving about the length of a key blade and a twist , and bind the 4 pieces together tightly, then make all of them twist by using two locking pliers clamped down hard, and make a 90 degree twist in all four pieces at once, with enough flat metal past the twist to file picks from, (you need to keep about half an inch between the pliers when twisting to give the metal room to shape without shearing. This will leave two double ended pieces that nest perfectly because they were bent together, You can put diamonds or mulitple diamonds, on the ends of these. they can be made to carry flat as they were bent, and then quickly made into cruciform with a keeper that is fitted behind the twist. of course sanding is the key to making them work.


Perhaps this will help you. :)

Oh yeah, if the plug needs to be turned only 90 degrees to open the lock then you will be fine. If you need too turn the key more than 90 degrees you will have to pick it more than ince, similar to tubular locks. When it gets to 90 degrees the pins settle-down in the next chambers thus ressetting the lock, hence if you need to turn the key a full turn to unlock then you are looking at picking the lock 4 times to open the padlock. Even if the lock only needs to be turned 90 degrees you will likely have to pick the padlock to lock it again - that's if you want to of course. :)
illusion
 
Posts: 4567
Joined: 2 Sep 2005 13:47

Postby Mr. Lock Pick » 12 May 2006 15:14

first time ive seen this kind of lock

Illusions insctruction are the best ones,,, ide go with that
Mr. Lock Pick
 
Posts: 100
Joined: 6 Apr 2006 17:43
Location: St-Hubert, Quebec, Canada

Postby toomush2drink » 12 May 2006 16:21

These can also be picked with a hook or diamond.You need to get the tension right and the double pronged tension tool can realy be useful.Ive a couple of similar locks and each side only has 2 pins, they also do these for the additional garage door bolts you can get.Some of the budget burgwatcher digital safes have this type of lock as the back up key.
toomush2drink
 
Posts: 1966
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 15:56
Location: UK london

Postby TOWCH » 12 May 2006 20:42

Are those wafers? :shock:
TOWCH
 
Posts: 1587
Joined: 20 Jul 2004 0:19
Location: Oregon

Postby ThE_MasteR » 12 May 2006 20:59

TOWCH wrote:Are those wafers? :shock:
Man, I was thinking the same thing. The pins look a bit square from what I can tell.
ThE_MasteR
 
Posts: 1128
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 11:11
Location: Canada, Montreal

Postby bembel » 12 May 2006 21:39

http://www.multipick-service.cc/htdocs/ ... s/verspick

P.S. Of course it's far more challenging to pick them with HD & hook. ;)
User avatar
bembel
 
Posts: 499
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 19:08
Location: Germany

Postby LockNewbie21 » 12 May 2006 23:50

The only time i seen this type of lock when i was browseing around walmart looking for a mothers day card and seen one on a sentry firebox, ofacourse i took acloser look it had wafers in it... but then again its sentry so i menan there cheap, hey would anyone mind posting a video of someone picking this lock? I am seraching ebay i want one!! :D



Andy
[deadlink]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h17/Locknewbie21/LockNewbie21Sig.jpg[/img]
LockNewbie21
 
Posts: 3625
Joined: 21 Feb 2006 2:26
Location: The Keystone State

Next

Return to Pick-Fu [Intermediate Skill Level]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests