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S&G combination safe deposit lock

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S&G combination safe deposit lock

Postby devildog » 16 May 2006 0:10

Very nifty, I've never actually heard of a combination-locked safe deposit box before--I thought they were all key locked, usually lever locks with flat steel keys...and there's only one lock it would seem, so the usual thing where the bank and the renter BOTH have to give authorization wouldn't apply, it seems, just the renter (bank wouldn't have the combo, I'm guessing)...and how do you deal with a new renter? Change the combo every time? odd...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sargent-Greenleaf-Combination-lock-Safe-Deposit-Box-16_W0QQitemZ7619411174QQcategoryZ53150QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Postby devildog » 16 May 2006 0:15

Here's another one with a better photo of the dial (I was thinking some of you safe connoisseurs might be able to date it by the dial):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sargent-Greenleaf-Combination-lock-Safe-Deposit-Box-16_W0QQitemZ7619121024QQcategoryZ53150QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Postby Varjeal » 16 May 2006 10:36

This door didn't come out of a bank. Quite likely it came out of a higher-end hotel or some other place that allows its employees/guests to secure items in a central location. If it did come out of a bank, it wasn't from an SD nest.

Several things lead me to this conclusion:

1. As mentioned previously, no dual custody. All banks (that I'm aware of and I'll defer to the experts out there) have policies requiring dual custody.

2. Door size. I'll have to check my info, but the size of the door doesn't seem to be one of the standard ones for SD boxes (again, I'll have to check)

3. Spyproof dial....It would seem strange that in a bank vault where only the renter and a bank employee would be that a spyproof dial would be considered necessary.

Just some initial thoughts.
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Postby maxxed » 16 May 2006 11:07

What is pictured there is called a tellers compartment. This is a usually in the area of the S/D boxes and is in a nest like S/D boxes.
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I wonder how much

Postby CVScam » 16 May 2006 18:09

I am trying to figure out what someone would do with a combo door that doen't even have the combo. I guess you could learn something from it.
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Re: I wonder how much

Postby n2oah » 16 May 2006 18:13

CVScam wrote:I am trying to figure out what someone would do with a combo door that doen't even have the combo. I guess you could learn something from it.


You could take off the back plate and find the combo by looking at the gates on the wheel pack. :wink:
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Postby Varjeal » 16 May 2006 19:46

maxxed: Yeah, I was tired. Good call on that one. 8)
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Postby maxxed » 16 May 2006 20:41

I think that these would be great practice locks for anyone learning about combinations
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 16 May 2006 21:11

maxxed nailed it

i thin diebold

why pay for the shipping on that chunk of steel ?
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Postby jjmerg » 16 May 2006 22:07

That is a Diebold door. Off of a BANK TELLER's vault. The lock is S&G. That is where the teller stashes their cash and coin.

I work in the Bank Safe and Safe Deposit Industry.

Sometimes, they (teller and manager) have dual control to these units. Meaning on would have the first number, and the other has the last two, or vise versa.

When an employee is fired or quits, we are contracted to change combos on said locks. Or drill them open and manipulate if necessary. (Which we won't discuss here.)


This would be a 15" x 5" box. And a very light door. Stainless front and steel door. It is hollow.
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Postby maxxed » 17 May 2006 1:35

jjmerg wrote:Sometimes, they (teller and manager) have dual control to these units. Meaning on would have the first number, and the other has the last two, or vise versa.
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Units I have worked on with dual custody had either two combinations on it or had a locking dial, manager had key teller had combination
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Postby jjmerg » 17 May 2006 7:47

Or that way as well. South Florida does it own things.

The locking dial is a more costly and effective way. Banks are cheap, man.
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Postby WhiteHat » 17 May 2006 9:34

I bought a S&G R6700 lock from ebay for US$45 a couple of years back - it's been quite fun, although I havn't had the dedication to practice at all.

if this lock is undamaged, then it could be a bargain - already mounted helps a bit also.
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