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Union lock

Postby Chris Barton » 21 May 2006 11:38

I am unsure of how to attempt this lock. I am what you may call a beginner, and am not exactly an expert like you guys
I have included a photo of the lock, please could you tell me how to attempt this lock, and what tools I need.
thanks.
Heres a photo of the Lock

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Postby chrisjc33 » 21 May 2006 11:59

we need a picture of the lock keyway,there could be anything behind that escutcheon
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Postby Keyring » 21 May 2006 12:05

The thing is that we:

- don't pick locks we don't own

- don't pick locks that are in use even if we own them

The lock in that picture falls into at least one of those categories.
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Postby Squelchtone » 21 May 2006 12:48

Keyring wrote:The thing is that we:

- don't pick locks we don't own

- don't pick locks that are in use even if we own them

The lock in that picture falls into at least one of those categories.



In regards to not picking your own locks that are in use... Why not? I've picked everything around my apt. just to see how good or bad my locks are. It's the reason I threw away my Defiant deadbolt that came with the apartment, and bought a $50 Schlage keys on both sides which I haven't been able to pick yet, you should see the key, it's pretty evil looking, and the housing feels solid, not hollow and cheap like my lower kwikset key in knob set.

I think its a good way to test your level of security. Is this rule used here because sometimes learning to pick can bind pins and break locks, so it stops you from breaking your own locks, or...

or is it because picking a lock in use, even if it is your own, can lead to going further and then picking your neighbor's door? or your landlord's shed or the 8 cars parked outside? (no, I have not done that, just my own locks) but I can see the stepping stone of picking your own locks and then doing other locks that are in use and not your own..

Thanks for the clarification of the rules :D

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Postby bonez » 21 May 2006 13:26

chris fill in your profile!!

and why do you want to pick this lock wich is mounted on a door :?:

most new pickers practise on a bench!!

i don't mean to offend but for your 1st post this sounds a bit suspect!!

as said before show us a picture of the keyway and maybe we can help?

cheers.

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Postby Keyring » 21 May 2006 14:07

As an amplification of what I said earlier. If someone, genuinely experienced wants to pick locks of their own which are in use, then no-one can stop them. For those locks to be your own, then you have to own the house they are fitted to, and for it to be sensible then you need to be the only person who will be inconvenienced if you damage a lock.

Many times in this forum, the lock which someone claims to own, is actually part of their parents' house. This is not the same as owning a lock.

Finally, my main point is that someone who says they know little about picking would be crazy to risk damaging a lock they depend on, and to advise someone how to do this without a clear warning would be irresponsible.
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Postby Chris Barton » 21 May 2006 15:18

To Clarify, I do own the lock on my own outhouse. A friend of mine managed to pick a similar lock (on his own property, yes) and I was surprised to see how easily and effortlessly he did it. It was a lock similar to that of which I posted above.
Yes, I'd love to practice, but at no great expense. Using such skill for illegality never crossed my mind.
I think maybe this forum is too advanced for me... Could you suggest where to start?
Oh, and I have now filled in a profile.
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Postby Jason13 » 21 May 2006 15:19

The one thing that annoys me about Lever locks in the Tension.

Its so hard for me to tension a lever lock going to have to try out a thicker wire like a coat hanger.
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Postby illusion » 21 May 2006 15:23

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Postby illusion » 21 May 2006 15:34

Jason13 wrote:The one thing that annoys me about Lever locks in the Tension.

Its so hard for me to tension a lever lock going to have to try out a thicker wire like a coat hanger.


Bicycle spoke, Jason. :)
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Postby bonez » 21 May 2006 16:17

as said in my reply no offence was intended!

this forum is not to advanced for you we are all at a degree
of learning!
use the search button this will answer most of your questions.

take the lock out of the door take a pic and you will be guided
from there.

:)

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Postby Chris Barton » 21 May 2006 16:28

Ok, Will do... I will make sure i dont use the Key :wink:
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Postby bonez » 21 May 2006 16:34

i see your in kent!

illusion is in your neck of the woods :wink:

cheers

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Postby illusion » 21 May 2006 16:41

Yeah.. Sevenoaks isn't too far away from me. :)
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Postby Jason13 » 21 May 2006 16:52

illusion wrote:
Jason13 wrote:The one thing that annoys me about Lever locks in the Tension.

Its so hard for me to tension a lever lock going to have to try out a thicker wire like a coat hanger.


Bicycle spoke, Jason. :)


Iv'e tryed bike spokes but its so hard for me to tension it and when i do it can slip and i get real annyoyed :roll:

Im going to try this out Illusion :wink:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/j ... lifter.jpg looks real good. Even know its for lifting levers im goin got try it for the tension
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