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Is it true that short hooks are really good?

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Do you thing the Short Hook pick is the best?

Yes, Da Hook owns all.
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80%
No, I like some of the others.
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Is it true that short hooks are really good?

Postby HiddenMooCow » 20 May 2006 23:00

I'm a newbie lockpick in the sense that I have never bought a manufactured set before, I usually just made my own. But the ones I've had kinda didn't really have a designed end to them because I don't have the tools to do so. So should I get the short hook stainless steel slimline one? Cuz my friend says he got the jackknife set and that's the only pick he uses. What situations would you need any of the others?
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 21 May 2006 3:39

Hooks are the basis of picking i personally always use it, i hate the hald diamonds, its just my opinion though, but yea they do own for single pin picking.



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Postby Blink » 21 May 2006 10:38

It's personal preference, some people like using the hook for SPP, and some like the half diamond, it's always in between those two, expecially when starting out. Personally, I love the hook!
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Hooks!

Postby pradselost » 22 May 2006 6:34

Short hooks are great. :) They have all the advantages of a deep hook (ability to raise individual pins and give good feedback), but they also lack the major disadvantage, which is that deep hooks can be more difficult to maneuver in smaller keyways. Most average-level locks don't have incredibly high-set pins anyhow, so a short hook is more than adequate for most tasks. :)
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 22 May 2006 8:30

pradselost, true in principal, but here is a nice mind trip to think about to bypass this scenerio. You make diffrent deep hooks with alternating fulcrums, then its jsut a matter of sliding the right angle under the pins. Oh and the fulcrum<-- bad spelling its early, is the point in which the tang contacts the ward and is used to give leverage to the pick head at a given angle, think of the cool thingie in the middle of a seesaw. So yea standard picks are good, hybrids are okay, combine them both at alternting angles and fulcrum points and you have yourself a pick that people will say wwwoowww (amenst drooling)... check out my thread explaining my theory on what i just said its more detailed, and yes i say i will post pictures of the picks but i cant work my camera :roll:


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Postby USMAN » 22 May 2006 12:54

Hook Rulz !

Its the First Tool i made when i started picking :P

I get the best feel with this pick.
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Postby quickpicks » 22 May 2006 17:04

Experiment with your equipment. Variety is the spice of life :P Some tools work better than others. I favor the half diamond but occasionally I use different tools.
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Postby TOWCH » 23 May 2006 2:13

I prefer half diamond for feeling out binding pins. For all around picking my preference is the peterson gem shape.
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Short hooks

Postby pradselost » 23 May 2006 5:53

LockNewbie21 wrote:pradselost, true in principal, but here is a nice mind trip to think about to bypass this scenerio. You make diffrent deep hooks with alternating fulcrums, then its jsut a matter of sliding the right angle under the pins. Oh and the fulcrum<-- bad spelling its early, is the point in which the tang contacts the ward and is used to give leverage to the pick head at a given angle, think of the cool thingie in the middle of a seesaw. So yea standard picks are good, hybrids are okay, combine them both at alternting angles and fulcrum points and you have yourself a pick that people will say wwwoowww (amenst drooling)... check out my thread explaining my theory on what i just said its more detailed, and yes i say i will post pictures of the picks but i cant work my <censored> camera :roll:


Andy


Andy:
True enough. :) I saw those picks you were making in the other forum, kind of like a rocker technique. :) They're beautiful by the way, your work is magnificent. ^_^ The deep hooks have always felt awkward to me in a compressed keyway but maybe I'll start working on rockering them a little bit, if my term is correct. Oh, and I think totally spelled "Fulcrum" right. I think it's one of those words that looks wrong even when you spell it perfect. =D
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Postby digital_blue » 23 May 2006 10:17

I agree with the "variety is the spice of life" sentiment. I am glad that I have a whole slew of picks from which to choose... however... I am partial to my Falle-Safe set of tools because it's "a hook for every season". In a pinch, I would reach for a hook before anything else. But just one hook is not really enough. LockNewbie is right about the varying hooks. But once you have all those hooks, picking the right one for the job is half the battle.

Cheers,

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Postby pinsetter » 23 May 2006 16:01

I'm another that likes a wide variety to choose from. The first pick I grab is the half-diamond design and I favor them over any other, but the hook is always my second choice. I also have some picks of my own design that I use quite a bit, but didn't figure I would count the homemade designs in this poll.
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Postby toomush2drink » 23 May 2006 17:13

On my fav short hook i have slighly made the tip concave. I find this catches the tip of the pins just right allowing you to use odd angles to lift the pins.Give it a go it works a treat
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