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MULTILOCK REP COMING TOMORROW,NEED HELP

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Postby Raccoon » 24 May 2006 17:31

Gives you time to buy a KEBump, quickly. :)
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Postby SPANNER » 24 May 2006 17:38

How much are they selling for ? will i have to sell my baby for one ! Has anyone used picks 6 and 7 in the dino navigator pick set ? they are supposed to be for "dimple" style locks :? i understand the theory but some pointers on actual methods used would be a big help :)
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Postby digital_blue » 24 May 2006 18:06

I'll trade you my Tomahawk for your Mul-T code cutter. :P

Edit: Btw, does the Garrison line use a pin-in-pin system as well? Or are they just dimple locks?
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Postby Raccoon » 24 May 2006 18:22

KE-Bumps are sold here, and cost $21.50.
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Postby devildog » 24 May 2006 19:26

Foil impressioning does NOT work on Mul-T-Lock, or any other dimple lock with telescoping pins. Mul-T-Locks CAN be bumped, as has been demonstrated on video by Barry Wels. Mul-T-Locks CAN be picked, although it would definately be quite a challenge so you better be at a fairly advanced level before you try it. The only pick set that's specifically designed for them, that I'm aware of, are Souber's Dimple/Mul-T-Lock pickset, which are of suprisingly simple design and you should be able to make on your own without a lot of trouble; I'm sure there's picks somewhere on the site, just search.

You could show him a video of Barry Wels bumping the Mul-T-Lock, but he can always just say it was faked somehow, sooo...other than that, without having the proper tools on hand already and the requisite skill to use them, there's not much you can do.
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Postby zeke79 » 24 May 2006 19:41

Foil impressioning should work on the garrison and 7x7 models.
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Postby devildog » 24 May 2006 21:23

I was under the impression that foil impressioning didn't work on anything with telescoping pins--have you verified that it works on these locks? I understand why it wouldn't work on the interactive due to the mobile element in the key.
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Postby chrisjc33 » 25 May 2006 7:06

digital_blue wrote:I'll trade you my Tomahawk for your Mul-T code cutter. :P

Edit: Btw, does the Garrison line use a pin-in-pin system as well? Or are they just dimple locks?


the garrison are just dimple locks not pin in pin
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Postby chrisjc33 » 25 May 2006 7:13

zeke79 wrote:Foil impressioning should work on the garrison and 7x7 models.

i have tried the foil impressioning but can't get it to work,the foil just rips and i think this is because the pins seem to be under quite high spring tension and the pins are quite sharpe not rounded like pin tumblers
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Postby zeke79 » 25 May 2006 7:41

The best foil I have used for this is the stick on foil tape for hvac. You may have to thin your blank down some to allow for the extra thickness.

Devildog,

The garisson and 7x7 models are just standard dimple locks not pin in pin models :wink: .
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Postby devildog » 25 May 2006 9:46

Is there a model with telescoping pins that's not interactive?
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Postby Shrub » 25 May 2006 10:08

Yes,
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Postby SPANNER » 25 May 2006 11:06

Ok guys so were clear now that the MUL T LOCK Garrison does not have pin in pin tecnology as chrisjc33 rightly posted its just a fancy dimple style lock.As for the foil impressioning method devildog has suggested thinning down the blank a bit ? which bits to thin and the best methods please gentlemen :? if anyone still has problems with which lock im talking about then type multilock/garrison in search and there are some pictures posted by
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Postby SPANNER » 25 May 2006 11:09

Ok guys so were clear now that the MUL T LOCK Garrison does not have pin in pin tecnology as chrisjc33 rightly posted its just a fancy dimple style lock.As for the foil impressioning method devildog has suggested thinning down the blank a bit ? which bits to thin and the best methods please gentlemen :? if anyone still has problems with which lock im talking about then type multilock/garrison in search and there are some pictures posted by chrisjc33 under the same heading as your search.as for digitalblue i can post a photo of my Mul T Lock code machine to wind you up if you like mate :lol:
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Postby Shrub » 25 May 2006 11:45

Spanner, im after a cutter for the pin in pin any idea where i can get them and how much? Its the cutting bit not the machine :wink:
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