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by LockNewbie21 » 3 Jun 2006 14:12
Heres a pick
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They seem to only sell them in germany, does anybody know of were i can buy these in the US. I searched MSN google dogpile, i can;t find them
Andy
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by undeadspacehippie » 3 Jun 2006 14:15
I really like that tension tool on the left, I've seen them before, but never used one.
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by ThE_MasteR » 3 Jun 2006 14:31
undeadspacehippie wrote:I really like that tension tool on the left, I've seen them before, but never used one.
Those are for wager/auto locks. They are called Double-Pronged tentionners.
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by Shrub » 3 Jun 2006 14:39
The auto tension tools need more of a bend on the arms so i say that one is just a double pronged wrench for other locks.
Did lockmasters not sell somthing simular?
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by mh » 3 Jun 2006 15:41
What you are looking for is a RGN-3385 from Dino.
No idea who sell these in the US,
but maybe NothernTool can help you, at least they have other products from Dino:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/ ... _200312513
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by undeadspacehippie » 3 Jun 2006 23:27
ThE_MasteR wrote:undeadspacehippie wrote:I really like that tension tool on the left, I've seen them before, but never used one.
Those are for wager/auto locks. They are called Double-Pronged tentionners.
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I thought it might be something similar to the adjustables that allow you to use almost all of the keyway for a pick - somebody posted a pic of a homemade one that allowed for a wider clearance of the keyway. I'm still looking though.
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by SFGOON » 3 Jun 2006 23:55
Those double pronged ones don't work so well, they're really shakey unless the keyway is the perfect size. The Falle-Safe ones are much better, and you can purchase a set of just the ajustable tensioners for something like 80$.
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by grim » 4 Jun 2006 2:24
undeadspacehippie wrote:I really like that tension tool on the left, I've seen them before, but never used one.
i've been playing with "improvised tools" and have made a tension tool similar to that one by flattenting a kickplate from the back of a computer (you pop another one out everytime you put a new card in). after you've flattened it out, just clip the narrow bit of metal at (what was) the top and just bend those prongs of metal down. you might want to twist them or leave them untwisted depending on your preferences.
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by raimundo » 4 Jun 2006 9:28
Next time your tearing apart a windshield wiper to get to the stainless, take a second look at the wishbone ends of the rockers, these can be modified into tensors, I have done it, you cut them with files, and you can shape some nice double tip tensors.
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by undeadspacehippie » 4 Jun 2006 10:26
grim wrote:i've been playing with "improvised tools" and have made a tension tool similar to that one by flattenting a kickplate from the back of a computer (you pop another one out everytime you put a new card in).
I think i have seen that done in some pics on this site - I'll give it a try, does the metal need to be hardened after? raimundo wrote:Next time your tearing apart a windshield wiper to get to the stainless, take a second look at the wishbone ends of the rockers, these can be modified into tensors, I have done it, you cut them with files, and you can shape some nice double tip tensors.
Do you mean the part where the rubber and insert slides into? I have seen some inserts that are double bladed and extra wide that may be great for material (Dodge full sized conversion vans - not sure of year).
I'll check out the falle-safe tension tools to see what they have, thanks for the replies. I'm looking for something that gives me better access to the keyway, I am experiencing problems with overlifting pins, especially in schlage and yale keyway.
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by ufd538 » 30 Sep 2006 23:13
lockmasters.com...just saw them in their catalog, and found them on the website, boasting a lifetime guarentee, under automotive
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by Omikron » 30 Sep 2006 23:19
I've seen the picks under many different brand names. It's just a generic set being manufactured by an eastern company and then being rebranded for various purposes. You can get them in the US from Lockmasters with a "lifetime guarantee". I don't know if anyone has tried to claim a warranty case yet, but apparently they say they will replace any picks you break...
I have a set and the quality seems to be decent, although I haven't spent much time using them in practice.
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by Romstar » 1 Oct 2006 1:41
I have an overwhelming urge to sue somebody now.
Those particular handle designs you see there are right out of my design book. I really don't care if anyone here believes me, but this really pisses me off.
The original design was made of steel, and I thought that was too heavy, and the next ones were cut from plastic, but that wasn't rigid enough or it was too brittle. Thats when I settled on Aluminum.
Hardened anodized aluminum. The picks are replacable as you can see by removing the two screws holding down the retainer plate. If you damaged a pick blade, you only had to replace the blade, and it was all doable by the owner.
These were supposed to be an additional line to the full sized one piece steel picks that we developed for those people who thought a ful set of the steel ones were too heavy.
ARGH! %^$# patience I wanna KILL somebody!
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by Omikron » 1 Oct 2006 1:47
Romstar wrote:I have an overwhelming urge to sue somebody now.
Those particular handle designs you see there are right out of my design book. I really don't care if anyone here believes me, but this really pisses me off.
The original design was made of steel, and I thought that was too heavy, and the next ones were cut from plastic, but that wasn't rigid enough or it was too brittle. Thats when I settled on Aluminum.
Hardened anodized aluminum. The picks are replacable as you can see by removing the two screws holding down the retainer plate. If you damaged a pick blade, you only had to replace the blade, and it was all doable by the owner.
These were supposed to be an additional line to the full sized one piece steel picks that we developed for those people who thought a ful set of the steel ones were too heavy.
ARGH! %^$# patience I wanna KILL somebody! Romstar
That's very unfortunate to hear Romstar. Did you ever talk to any outside people about it? Do you have any leads?
Something to note is that these picks have riveted handles, not screwed. The picks themselves are NOT user-replacable, and will require the whole pick to be replaced if it breaks.

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