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I am newbie from Europe :(

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

I am newbie from Europe :(

Postby toxicity » 14 Mar 2004 2:35

Hello! I have one small question ;) I wannt to learn the art of lock picking, but im only beginner, and i don't know where to start. I have downloaded Mit Lock Guide, and here is my question: "Is this book good for me to learn picking locks in EUROPE? Or not? "

Thanks, and sorry for my bad english ;)
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Postby plot » 14 Mar 2004 3:02

all pin-tumbler locks work the same. the MIT-Guide is excellent for european locks, and american alike.

biggest difference in euro locks is they have a smaller key way, so you need thinner picks to pick them.

p.s. your english is very good.
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Postby toxicity » 14 Mar 2004 3:39

plot wrote:all pin-tumbler locks work the same. the MIT-Guide is excellent for european locks, and american alike.

biggest difference in euro locks is they have a smaller key way, so you need thinner picks to pick them.

p.s. your english is very good.


OK. Thanks!

But, one realy last question ;). I have start downloading file "Making Picks 1" (i have found link on this forum). Is this good video file for creating picks (for my dear europe ;)) or should i look for something else?
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Postby plot » 14 Mar 2004 3:53

It's an extremely good video.

The picks you make from it should work great, the only thing you might need to do is grind them down a little bit more so they fit in the euro-keyways. But, for the most part, it shouldn't be a problem at all.

Alot of people on this forum are from the United Kingdom and other parts of europe, they could probably answer your questions better then me. (I'm american)

However, read the MIT guide, read it again, make your picks following that video (or if you want to buy picks, check the FAQ section of this forum, has plenty of places to buy picks). then, read the MIT guide again and practice, practice, practice!
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Postby Quin » 14 Mar 2004 3:58

First off welcome toxicity

Secondly the video is great but it shows you how to make them using a grinder.

Thirdly there are two types of picks you can buy; Slimline and standard. I only mention these because if you're about to make some this is relevant.

A lot of European locks have small keyways and the slimline picks were made to fit this kind of lock. We have found though that people starting off "might" have more problems using the slimline so if your going to make some you might be better off making a few standard sizes, a few slimline and see how you get on with both types.

Just an idea.
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Postby toxicity » 15 Mar 2004 5:29

And basicly, all picks i need for beginnig is the last two picks in MIT Lock picking guide?
Thanks, and once again, sorry for my bad english ;)
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Postby Chucklz » 15 Mar 2004 11:15

Heres a photo of some picks, made by a European, that should work amazingly well for your locks.

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/picks ... curve.html
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