ASSA locks

[Klick]

Can anyone tell me the specifics on an assa lock? On non-sidebars.

*Any specific weanesses?
*How well are the pins allined, 000,1 cm? Less?

My friend challenged me to open his appartments assa lock, i do not know if it has a sidebar. I think i will try, but succeeding is a question to be asked : )
I have this lock on my appartment: http://www.assalock.com/twinpro.htm,
i wonder when i will be able to pcik that...? : 0
If my friends door has no sidebar, i think that using a rake is the best. Then perhaps the individuals.

Thanks!

[Chucklz]

Without a specific model, it will be hard to say anything about specifics. But, I can say the pin missalignment will vary from lock to lock, and honestly, knowing the exact value doesn't really help much at all.

The lock on your apartment, you may never pick that lock. Its the way of high security. You may be able to pick other locks of that design, but a particular lock will elude you.

I didn't see many ASSA locks there without a sidebar. Take a peek at the cylinder, and see if it has a little UL on it. If so, that lock is UL 437 listed, and probably will be a real pain to pick.

[Klick]

I saw the key and it has no side "code" on it. Mine has an extra line on the side with teeth, so the key has 2 paris of teeth.
My friends appartment´s key has no side "code", i would suggest that it has no sidebar?
Tough the teeth on the second row on my key are very straight cut. I mean, if you would insert a rake with a nice straight line, it should solve the prob.
Perhaps it is just the masterkey, those straight teeth?
Does anyone have a pc of a sidebar key?
The springs on the pins are also troublesome. Usually they are quite hard compared to other "ordinary" locks. So i would think that a good ammount of torque is needed?
Then again, it would take away the fine senses transferred by the wrench?

Thanks!

[Chucklz]

Only gentle torque would be generally recommended. Even though your friends key lacks the side milling yours has, it may be an older design that contains a sidebar. I don't know much about ASSA locks except a bit about the V10 and the Desmo. Judging from the quality of those locks, I wouldn't bet anything more significant than say...... a round of beers on opening one.

[Varjeal]

ASSA has quite a selection of keyways that are not high security, but they do look (from the keyprofiles in my key catalog) like they're pretty restrictive, meaning small picks will probably be necessary.

[Klick]

The keys/keyways are quite restrictive...........for thicker picks. I think that with a standard american pick i could not even fit in. But i have made a series of extremely thin picks, not too thin. They fit perfectly. Alltough single picking can be annoying, the pick slips off the pins : /
Good luck to me! I will report on friday if i succeeded or not. I hope i will!

Thanks!

[Denis]

The pins are very sharf on the downsite of their Heads.

[Klick]

certainly good to know : )

[gang_wheell]

Assa lock's are hardest

[n2oah]

I believe he is talking about the SCD, which has no sidebar, but it has some very tricky spools.

[LockNewbie21]

Nothings inmpossible work at it... ofcourse the rate of time to pick it could be days or months, but take it as its the hardest with a grain of salt.. the more you believe it the harder it gets, buy a new one mounter it sit down with as said a beer and a pack of smokes and just got to work, i tend to make my own picks for locks that comercial ones are a pain in, watch zekes video everyone said medecos were impossible well he proved that wrong might have took a while jsut work on it,


Andy