Flipping the Core around

by **ysr50speed** » 12 Jun 2006 17:05

I have found that sometimes I can only get the Plug/Core to pick one way(which usually ends up being the wrong way). But anyways when that happens I found its pretty easy to shove a lot of dental floss into the keyway to keep the pins up and then turn it with a tension wrench to the right side. Then you take the floss out and reuse it when needed. Anyways just a thought.

by **undeadspacehippie** » 12 Jun 2006 20:44

What?!?!?! - are you serious? I have to try this out. I have a thing about dental floss, i carry two packs with me. Just another use for dental floss.

Can you make a video?

by **Krypos** » 13 Jun 2006 0:11

umm...perhaps ya might try just figuring out which way to turn the plug. (opposite from the locking side)

dental floss...hmm...i cant be bothered to use it as it was intended (no worries i brush regularly) but yeah...idk man...

by **Octillion** » 13 Jun 2006 0:20

It can be useful when it is a difficult lock, and you accidentally pick it in the wrong direction, or if you are unable to pick it in the correct direction (maybe it is not possible to orient the torque wrench in a good position when torquing in one direction, or the lock just happens to be a lot easier to pick in the wrong direction).

The alternative is to use a plug spinner, which will be a lot quicker than shoving floss or whatever in the lock.

by **digital_blue** » 13 Jun 2006 1:58

Yeah, there's no reason why this wouldn't work. It works for the dimple locks. But, I would still go for my plug spinner in this situation 100% of the time. And, my plug spinner cost me under $2. See tshock's thread on the matter.

db

by **p1ckf1sh** » 13 Jun 2006 5:07

Octillion wrote:It can be useful when it is a difficult lock, and you accidentally pick it in the wrong direction, or if you are unable to pick it in the correct direction (maybe it is not possible to orient the torque wrench in a good position when torquing in one direction, or the lock just happens to be a lot easier to pick in the wrong direction).

The alternative is to use a plug spinner, which will be a lot quicker than shoving floss or whatever in the lock.

I said it before, but there are alternatives to dental floss: solder wick or tubular coax wire coating. Both is basically the same, although coax coating gets you there quicker if there is a lot of room to fill.

One day when I was bored I tried to open an Abus 5pin "locksmith" style, that means I wanted to see if I actually could open and turn this lock in both directions. I could only pick it in one direction (CW), and when I engaged the coupling I could turn (read: unlock) it one full rotation in that direction, no problem. But, the coupling would always spring back in the 0Â° position. And, you could not spin the lock with the coupling engaged, too much force needed, I suppose the cam was kinda dirty or something. I could flip the picked lock over 0Â° CCW without coupling engaged, but when it was offset from 0Â° i had no luck engaging the coupling. I could only get it in the 0Â° position. It really made me mad, the goddam coupling mechanism was much more of a security feature than those 4 spools. So I ended up using solder wick to stuff the keyway area just above the pins and jammed the stuff in there with a sturdy piece of wiper insert, until all the pins were stationary. Then I was able to shove in a piece of wiper insert to keep the coupling engaged and use a tension wrench to continually rotate the lock in any direction I liked.

It might be a weird looking practice and it takes time, but it can be used to make a picked lock operate like you have the key...

by **Octillion** » 13 Jun 2006 13:01

Just a comment on using solder wick, you should only use unfluxed wick so you donâ€™t end up with flux gunking up the lock.

by **p1ckf1sh** » 13 Jun 2006 14:11

Octillion wrote:Just a comment on using solder wick, you should only use unfluxed wick so you donâ€™t end up with flux gunking up the lock.

Oh, good point. I am not that much of an electronics geek, I didn't even know there was a type of wick with coating...

by **Octillion** » 13 Jun 2006 16:19

p1ckf1sh wrote:I didn't even know there was a type of wick with coating...

Fluxed wick is the only kind I use. :wink:

by **Chrispy** » 14 Jun 2006 5:45

*Off topic*

Ooooooooooooo.........! DB's gotta new sig and it's purrrrrrrrrrdy. :wink:

*On topic*

Dental floss, string, etc. is an oldie but a goodie. Basically anything that you can shove into the keyway and still pull out without damaging the lock should work fine. But as DB said, you can't beat a homemade plug spinner that sets you back a whole $2. :wink:

by **UWSDWF** » 14 Jun 2006 7:03

waxed or unwaxed, unflavoured or flavoured (if so citrus, mint (min, peppermint or spearmint), cherry, berry, Anise with Green Tea, or Tea tree)

by **digital_blue** » 14 Jun 2006 9:21

Mint dental floss is the way to go. It works, and leaves your locks feeling so fresh!

db

by **TheMikeMan** » 14 Jun 2006 16:34

DB, did you or anyone else find a way to keep the drivers from flying out of the Kaba Gemini? of so, what worked?

P.S: I like your new sig.

by **Shrub** » 14 Jun 2006 16:43

I thought we had cleared that one up?
Anything you can fill the lock with will work, a think cord, string or cotton will work well i keep meaning to try fishing line but i started on a new idea which i never finished.

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