Lifting Mutiple Pins at once question

by **pigeonofdespair** » 23 Jun 2006 10:53

Hi,

I did a search on the forums nothing really answered this question I have.

I'm pretty new to picking, but getting the hang of it fast. I'm able to set pins by luck, but at least I can set a few pins.

I have SouthOrd picks, the 20 piece set I got but I only use the Half Diamond, the hook, and the rake.

So my question is this: When I'm picking and trying to manipulate each pin individually it seems as though there is no way to lift the back pins without also lifting the front pins.

Now does it even matter if I'm say lifting the back pins and in doing so the pins infront of it get lifted as well,

I see no way around it with the picks I own currently, the stem from the handel to the tip is rather thick and pushes up as I lift the pick.

Should I shave down the handel or is this a non issue?

by **SFGOON** » 23 Jun 2006 11:18

As long as you're not causing the front pins to bind you're fine. You may need some slim-line pick for the lcoks you're trying to takle if the keyway is so restricted that you can't pick the lock. But as long as you're opening the lock, you're golden.

by **undeadspacehippie** » 23 Jun 2006 11:20

This is probably why people get slim line picks - I am working on a low profile set for a lock I am banging my head with . Lol.

by **Kaotik** » 23 Jun 2006 12:43

Speaking of Slim Picks, I made one yesterday, a Hook which extends 1 3/8 inch past the handle which gradually tapers from 1 1/2 mm to 1 mm or (3/64 inch to 1/32 inch) to tip with a tiny hook (really slight curve) on the end.

I made this particular pick for a master no.7 (5 pin) small padlock, due to having the same problem, and with this i am able to reach each individual pin without disturbing the adjacent pin and can reach to the back of the lock and only barely touching the first pin and rest the pick on the left ward.

It may seem rather tideous to make but i didn't have the key (which must not have had deep cuts except for the first and third pin) but it worked out perfect and i picked it successfully without a hinch.

Kaotik

by **pinsetter** » 23 Jun 2006 13:07

Most others are saying to get slim line picks and so forth to combat this problem, and with some locks you do need a slim pick, but normally that is for locks with extremely tight or paracentric keyways. My tip for you is to practice a lot and learn how to fine tune your tension control. More often than not, an overset pin that you've bumped up a bit can be released with a slight variance in tension while leaving the driver pin above the shear line. This takes some practice, but is very effective. When you feel that you have the pins all set and the lock is still not opening, try a slight bounce of tension. Just release a small amount of tension and very quickly re-apply. Be careful not to release enough tension to lose the set pins. By doing this you may have to re-set a couple of pins, but it works very well after you get the hang of it. It does take a bit of practice and a good feel.

by **Shrub** » 23 Jun 2006 18:35

We dont know where he is or what lock hes trying, US picks will be difficult to use an most euopean locks and slim lines are the ones to get but if your useing the right tools it is down to practice.

by **pigeonofdespair** » 24 Jun 2006 1:15

alright I think I got a handel on this problem...

Overset pin: That is when the key pin is resting above the seer line, such that if you were to say, overset the first pin (in visible sight) you would not be able to see it?

I think my picks are fine, like I said SouthOrd 20 piece set. I'm really wondering if the driver pin once set can be disturbed by lifting the key pin such that it makes contact with the driver. And if this happends is there risk of the driver pin unsetting itself if the key pin does not get trapped above the seer line.

Also what exactly are slimline picks, I did a search and looked at some "Slimline picks" for sale but the pictures look exactly like the picks I have.

by **what1sth1s** » 24 Jun 2006 3:25

they are the same but smaller because euro locks have a smaller keyhole i think.

i didnt know that until now because im planning on picking masterlock combos and the keyhole in the back is pretty small. =(

by **Shrub** » 24 Jun 2006 8:04

I dont recal ever seeing a picture of a slim line pick next to a us style one but yes the slimlines are just a narrower stem to them.

As i say it depends where you are, fill out your profile and we can advise much better.

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