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improvised tools 2

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improvised tools 2

Postby serpih » 25 Jun 2006 14:23

here we have a disc tumbler lock, you find this locks in many places.

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The new thing here, is what to do when you dont have a plug spinner.

i have used a ordinary platic bag.

This method works very well with disc tumbler lock and some times with others locks too.

before you ask, a litle movie.
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http://cruz.sergio.club.fr/mediamaker/i ... tools2.WMV
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Postby TheMikeMan » 25 Jun 2006 14:36

Um, isn't that a wafer? :lol:
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Postby UWSDWF » 25 Jun 2006 14:37

Thanks for the post, I'm sure the movie will help lots of people

There are several threads on the improvised plug spinning
check them out
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Postby ThE_MasteR » 25 Jun 2006 14:41

I don't see how a plastic bag, can imetate a plug spinner ?
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Postby Kaotik » 25 Jun 2006 14:45

Neither do I.

Need more info. Doesn't sound logical to me.
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Postby What » 25 Jun 2006 14:49

it is the same as using floss or some other material to keep the pins(or in this case wafers) from relocking the plug.
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Postby undeadspacehippie » 25 Jun 2006 15:02

TheMikeMan wrote:Um, isn't that a wafer? :lol:


Of course it comes with wafers!!! - Sorry to much python this week - Yes those look like wafers.


I'm not sure if plug spinner as the correct term - isn't that device supposed to spin the plug around into the correct rotation? - what you did there is pretty interesting though.
- There is no spool -
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Postby Krypos » 25 Jun 2006 15:57

i dont really see what purpose that serves. if i want to spin my plug around i will pick it as many times as i need to. additionally, why would i need to spin the plug 8 times around? won't it unlock after just once? lastly, it seems like too much work for me to put a bag and screwdriver into a lock and then spin it when i could just spin it with the tension wrench that is already in there.


just MY* thoughts.
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Postby What » 25 Jun 2006 16:50

Krypos, in his video the lock needed to be turned multiple times to open. if he simply turned the plug he would have had to pick it as many times as he had to rotate the plug. now this might not sound like much of a problem, but on some more high security locks that is not something you want to do.
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Postby serpih » 25 Jun 2006 17:32

for people who dont know, you find this locks in cars, moto,closet,mail boxes etc...

Other day i see a poste
A guy had forgot the plug spiner at work and he only arrive to pick the lock of the customer car in closing position.
I made this 2 posts to show is possible to pick some locks easily. improvised tools are for situations unexpected.
For other situations you have the key.

And for exemple the lock in the movie should be picked 4 times to open that makes 8 if you want to close the lock again.
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Postby pradselost » 26 Jun 2006 5:51

I have to say, I'm pretty impressed at the ingenious use of a plastic bag in that video. :) I wouldn't really think to have used it that way. I wonder how effective that would actually be on a high security lock, due to the malleable qualities of plastic and the fact that the plastic would probably want to expand within the lock due to it's being compressed....have you tried it on a higher security lock, rather than a cheaper wafer lock?
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Postby Shrub » 26 Jun 2006 10:13

As said thats a wafer lock and not a disc tumbler lock,

Krypos, pick each turn eh? what if you can only pick it once? ok a wafer lock like that can be opend with just about anything look at db's bananna video but get on to things like dimple locks and youll be struggleing picking each time and still make it economical time wise.
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Postby Krypos » 26 Jun 2006 16:31

ok...ok...sorry- i didnt think everyone would react like THAT. on the job it would be useful if, as stated, you forgot your plug spinner, but other than on the job, if i had a lock that needed to be turned 4 times, then i would be happy to pick it 4 times if necessary, and if it were a lock that i could only pick once, then i would STILL try to pick it because one cannot expect to get better if one doesnt TRY to get better.


seriously though- my apologies.
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Postby Shrub » 26 Jun 2006 16:41

No need to be sorry, i would do the same, use fast methods on the job but at home theres no time limit, its fun picking so yes picking multi times is great,

I have a funny and sometimes obnoxious way of getting apoint across i dont mean anything by it :wink:
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Postby pie muncher » 26 Jun 2006 16:52

this is the exact lock im trying to pick at work can anyone give a young virgin picker a few pointers please?
advice on picks to buy for this one?
you can't make an omelette without breaking the eggs......
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