Trying to make bumpkey

by **Sindbadd** » 9 Jun 2006 11:17

Hi!
Few days ago I decided to try out the bumpkey method.
I tried to prepare bump key , could you guys check out if I made them correctly ? I had some problems opening any lock (i tried 50 times and i managed to open a lock only one time).
I think there is something wrong with my bump keys but i am no expert.

Thanks in advance and regards

http://wacior.com/bumpkey1.jpg
http://wacior.com/bumpkey2.jpg
http://wacior.com/bumpkey3.jpg

by **Sindbadd** » 9 Jun 2006 11:19

and one more thing
i have to do the keys by myself , i asked in few lockpick stores if they could nail the key to (999) lowest position , but they said they would not do it because they know what it is used for :/

by **bonez** » 9 Jun 2006 12:30

if you've opened it once then your bump key works!

even the roughest looking bump keys can work,
it's all down to technique keep practising you'll get it :wink:

j.

by **illusion** » 9 Jun 2006 12:43

Not all of the cuts on your bump keys are actualy cut to the 9 position, and I can see one that is very visibly higher.

It looks like you also cut the key using a triangular file, which means that the cuts will effectively lift the pins up since you need a flat part with peaks on either edge. Use a working key and make sure that your cuts preserve the same distance between the peaks.

I have not managed to get bump keys cut with a needle file to work once - and I've tried a fair few times.

I'll post a photo later of a working bumpkey I have.

by **LockNewbie21** » 9 Jun 2006 13:53

Lol go to lowes buddy they do know anything there, next time ask the lockies if they dont sell boots bats or bars because they know what here for!!!! lockies tick me off sometimes.. very hipocritical becuase i am training to be one but if thats the case then i can critise i suppose, honestly make them sign a document saying that it was made and also sold for good use and practice, i mean you could sell them for 6-7 bucks. I will get flamed for this but theres no big deal considering a hacksaw blade is able to to made in any shape or form to pick about and standard pin tumbler lock (KW1,schlage ect.) ehh i don't know, i guess i am still ticked about being criminalized or being thought thereof for simply walking into a lockie and asking for advice for a good practice lock.. It almost seems more political to me considering its an extra butck, like me at work if an electrician jsut throws his old wires and scraps on the floor i will pick them all up, take them home and strip them and recycle them for money. Its practical, Plus the lockie i would have went to would have made a good buck if he would have sold me my medeco mortice cylinder.. but nope he was a jerk so i got it on Ebay for 35 or 40$

Andy

Andy

by **illusion** » 9 Jun 2006 13:56

Lock Newbie: Don't take this as an attack, but I'm struggling to read the solid blocks of text in your post. Could you try and paragraph them please?

Cheers.

by **LockNewbie21** » 9 Jun 2006 13:58

lol no prob illusion, my teachers failed me a few times for writing solid blocks, i jsut have to learn to take my ime, sorry mate :oops:

Andy

by **illusion** » 9 Jun 2006 14:01

No probs.

As I said it's no big issue, but it just makes it easier to read.

Ben

by **SEVEN** » 26 Jun 2006 19:36

Purchased a set of Union and Yale bump key's used as masters and cut a couple of sets. Union working fine yet no success with Yale.Is it true old lock's marked Yale and new marked YALE.[Or vise versa].

by **NKT** » 27 Jun 2006 6:47

It's very true that the Yale's are different over the years. You won't find your bumpkey working on all Yales, as the pin spacings are a tiny bit different. Also, some have 5 holes, some have 6, some are offset further from the start than others. They just all use the same blank! (Unless they don't, of course!)

by **devnill** » 27 Jun 2006 15:25

yeah, getting a bumpkey made is a pain in the a**. i went to 2 lock smiths today, and the first tried to charge me 45$ for one, and acted like its some complex process that cant be done by anyone but the most leet lock smith, and the second flat out refused because he said it was useless( i first asked him to cut it to code, and then said it was a bump key). I know saying it was a bumpkey was a bad idea, but he just gave this dumb look and was confused because he never heard of the term. Owch.

by **Shrub** » 27 Jun 2006 15:28

Have alook at the depth and spacing charts and simply make your bum key out of a normal copied key for that lock, simply file the cuts deeper, the spacings will already be sorted and your chart will tell you how deep to file.

by **devnill** » 27 Jun 2006 15:34

oh yeah, i forgot to mention that. At the second place i asked if i could just buy a blank, and he refused to sell it to me! I like to support local business whenever possible, but tm im going to wally world and getting a blank there.

by **TheMikeMan** » 27 Jun 2006 17:09

I made a schlage 5 pin c keyway bumpkey out of an existing key in about 5 minutes with a dremel. Just get a diamond coated bit set, and cut all the teeth down to the lowest depth, then round the tops of the teeth over. The bumpkey didn't seem like it worked at first, so I threw it in with my key collection. Today I saw it laying in there and tried it out again, and it worked! I just got lucky I guess.

by **TheMikeMan** » 28 Jun 2006 13:51

Man, I'm getting better at this already! I have made four bump keys now (Schlage C keyway, Schlage E keyway, Yale Y1 keyway, and Kwikset KW1). I just have to keep practicing picking regularly or I'll lose my l337 l0cp1ck1n9 5k1ll5, lol.

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