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MASTER EX series. Uncuttable, Tough under Fire. Com'On

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MASTER EX series. Uncuttable, Tough under Fire. Com'On

Postby Truck » 18 Mar 2004 16:28

Hi to everyone:
I bet some of you saw the MASTER EX series padlock. It has a round sticker and stated tough under fire and the outer shell wrap all the way to the top to protect the shackle. I thought this lock must be really "TOUGH" under all condition.

Guess what, I can pick it while watching TV under few seconds. Iam not really good at lock picking. I need about 5 minute to pick a normal 5 pin tumbler lock.
I thought mine was defected and I brought another one.
Same thing. At last, both locks went for a refund.

A lock like this mislead a lot of people, especially, when it is on sale.
Com' On.
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Postby CitySpider » 18 Mar 2004 16:55

I wouldn't say it "misled." People buy a lock like that -- people buy a padlock, really -- with physical security in mind, not picking resistance. Go lock it onto something and then physically break it off. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's not EASY.
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Postby David_Parker » 18 Mar 2004 17:22

Actually, it is tough. Master locks can take quite a physical beating. Hammers, fire, water, guns, bolt-cutters; they've really created a good anti-attacking lock.

However, you're right. Most of us begin picking Master Locks. Why? Because they're simple easy to pick padlocks for the most part.


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Postby Chucklz » 18 Mar 2004 18:43

Picking isnt much of a security concern for the vast majority of applications. Consider what you would expect to be locked with such a padlock. Imagine how the average hoodlum would try to get in. The lock addresses bolt cutters, hammer, projectile, etc etc, attacks very well.

The ProSeries locks are in general more pick resistant though.
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Postby Mad Mick » 18 Mar 2004 19:51

I'm not a bible-basher, but the earliest reported locking mechanism that I'm aware of was the large rock placed in front of 's tomb. Imagine trying to get past that with a hammer, or prybar.......That would be 'tough under all conditions'!
Image If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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Postby CitySpider » 18 Mar 2004 23:28

Nope. There've been -- I'm going off topics -- significantly older locks, and I mean actual locks. I know that Egypt used them as early as 1000BC. There were probably folks using locks or similar security measures much earlier than that, but I can't think of any without doing some research.
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Postby Chucklz » 18 Mar 2004 23:40

I remember something about doors, and bags tied shut with an intricate series of knots to detect tampering. The knots were of course accompanied by a curse. It seems a fair estimation that humans have been doing something similar for a long, long time.
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Postby CitySpider » 19 Mar 2004 11:00

Chucklz wrote:I remember something about doors, and bags tied shut with an intricate series of knots to detect tampering.


Thief knot. Not very intricate, but the same idea.
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Postby FunkyGuy » 21 Mar 2004 19:50

egypt people also had a stamp with dry mud, that blocked all robbers because if you broke it you were cursed a bad after-life so...yeah I hadnt seen , or read about any acual accoutns of locks in egypt besides stamps/seals.
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Postby locknut » 22 Mar 2004 11:45

im sure it was in egypt that the first mechanical lock was used it was like a disc/pin lock made out of wood
the key was like a plank that looked like a mortice lock key (slotted) that had a combination !
the lock had a slot for the key you put the key in with the cuts pointing up lift the key and slide it across and then lower the key to take it out
one cut on the key would move the bolt and the other cuts would lift the discs up and out of a slotted bit of wood to alow the bolt to move across
my pick of choice would be the chain saw :D
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Re: MASTER EX series. Uncuttable, Tough under Fire. Com'On

Postby Cub » 9 Oct 2013 18:59

I actually just picked this one myself! This was the first padlock I have every picked so I was surprised as well :D
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Re: MASTER EX series. Uncuttable, Tough under Fire. Com'On

Postby GWiens2001 » 9 Oct 2013 21:11

DING DING DING DING DING!!! We have a winner! 9 years since anybody wrote on this thread!

Congratulations on picking the lock! You might want to look at the date of the last thread before posting, though. :wink:

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