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[unlisted]

A few questions:
I have used the search function, but alot of the links are down, or pictures are missing. I have also watched the TOOOL "bumping" video and understand it to a point.
Can you sucessfully "bump" Best IC locks? I have 3 padlocks, and 3 (all same, sub user) keys for them. I drilled out one of the Cores (cut out the side of the padlock itself, not the core) and eventually want to make a control key...

I also have alot of other locks but these have stumped me now for some time. Any info would be appreciated.

[digital_blue]

It has been mentioned before. Seems to me that the answer is "Yes, it can be done"... but there weren't a whole lot of people who could claim success bumping Best ICs, but that seemed to have more to do with a lack of trying.


db

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I'm going to attempt to make a control key, bumping seems to easy. (well on normal locks) I rather build something.

Now, since I have already cut out one of the IC keyways, ( I know, I damaged a lockset! ) and have a sub key, can i drop the pins and figure out how to make a control key that way? (as long as I don't get the pins out of order?) Or will I just be more confused? I know this may be the right way, but I figured I'd ask if it works before I tried...

(yes these locks are legally mine, I bought them at a garage sale)

[fjardeson]

An IC Core Lock, even if it has no master keying (which is quite rare as most IC's are used in commercial applications) has two shearlines on all but the first (2) pins. The highest shearline is the control shear, and it's a standard distance (I believe .125") above the operating shear. If you evict the pin stacks and don't mix them up, you can derive the control key. Just get the math right, and don't forget to subtract .125 from the derived shearline. Good luck. IC's can be really fun!

[mastermarc]

hmm, this is probably the first semi-useful thread i've found for BEST locks......its friggen impossible to use google since it just gives you "best (adjective) LOCK, not BEST (brand) lock...."

anyway, I know a locksmith who refused to tell me how to do it, probably for obvious reasons, but for some reason i'm inclined to think there is some trick to it. He said it wasn't all that difficult and I am dying to learn more about them. I tried picking one a while back, and it was fruitless, I got the door open nevertheless, but it wasn't fun.

anyone have any experience with commercial BEST locks?

[LockNewbie21]

Best small format interchangable cores are not that tricky if you research and get/ make the right tools, to pick the control line i belive it is there is a thread with the picture and measurment of the tool. First to make a control key, you must determin the correct key way you can do this by looking at the warding and then matching it in a key catolouge<--spelled wrong, Best has quite a few key ways and key size's (Length reflects number of pins) then decode or impression the lock and create the control key. I cannont claim the simplicity or difficulty of picking one as of yet, i only pinned them and created a master key system for 5 diffrent cylinders for training and practice. As i understand and was taught best SFIC''s are used because of there very good ability to preform in a master or grand master system.


Andy

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Best small format interchangable cores are not that tricky if you research and get/ make the right tools, to pick the control line i belive it is there is a thread with the picture and measurment of the tool.
Andy

Any idea as to the title, or thread location?

I looked, and could not find....

[LockNewbie21]

I don;t know where that thread go to, i tried as well i even searched in every catagory having to do with locks, i have seen it not but 3 days ago. I rember it being called " the official Best thread" or something of that nature, i just can't find it.


Andy

[unbreakable]

Best small format interchangable cores are not that tricky if you research and get/ make the right tools, to pick the control line i belive it is there is a thread with the picture and measurment of the tool.
Andy

Any idea as to the title, or thread location?

I looked, and could not find....

I had a copy of the image on my hard drive, and I just posted it on photobucket. Here you go.



Credit and props goes to the author.

Unbreakable

[Buggs41]

Here is the original thread.


viewtopic.php?p=10840&highlight=#10840

[LockNewbie21]

Ugg hits self with bat, my search-fu... will it ever be good.

[Octillion]

Peterson does make these tools, by the way, so they are commercially available unlike the image states.

I bought them back when I was about two months into lock picking and was not successful in getting them to work, however I have not tried them out recently, so I can’t give much advice to how well they actually work.

There are a few keyways these will not work on, at least not those supplied by Peterson, as the keyway warding prevents proper positioning of the tool.

[picksmith]

Peterson now makes them in three different thicknesses and that is supposed to remedy the problem with them not fitting into certain key ways. I have also seen it suggested to put a toothpick in beside the tension tools that are too thin, and then break off the excess.

You can read about it here:

http://www.peterson-international.com/i-CORE.htm

[unlisted]

Has anyone used the I core drill jig? ( I know, destructive... )

It says in the information " ...plus it must ALLOW HIM TO DECODE the lock so he could make a control key for larger jobs"

How does this drill jig do that? or, is it just because the core is not damaged and easily taken apart...? If it just allows the person to not damage the core and take it apart, the info is a bit misleading, I'd say...

[Octillion]

The drill rig allows you to drill out the cam which holds the I-core in the hardware, thus allowing you to remove the core without damaging the pin stacks. It only says it allows you to decode the lock (because the pins remain intact), not that it decodes the lock for you.