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a bit of help...and i feel more noobish than i should

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a bit of help...and i feel more noobish than i should

Postby Krypos » 7 Jul 2006 4:15

hey, this is really dumb and i couldnt find it in like 4 different searches so i figure that theres got to be at least 5 other people wondering the samen thing...wtf is a TANG? im thinking its like the shaft of the pick or something but im really not sure at all.


so if one could tell me, thatd be great. then i can get back to not feeling so noobish.
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Postby VashTSPD » 7 Jul 2006 4:44

the tang is how far the metal goes into a handle, look on your stake knives, can you see the thin silver strip running in the middle of the handle? Follow that up, that's the same metal that the blade is made out of. So, if something has a "Full Tang" then the metal runs all the way through the entire handle, it's used to tell how strong something is. The same applies for the tang on a pick: how far down the handle the metal that makes the pick head goes. If something has only a little tang, then it's probably welded or bolted to the handle, which is a lot weaker and may snap on you. Like say, a hunting knive you snapped in half while trying to break the pelvis of a deer you just shot because you forgot to bring your ax with you. And it was a good knife you had too, darn. Except for the weak tang.
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Postby p1ckf1sh » 7 Jul 2006 7:55

It's already been explained. I'd just think I'd mention I also know what a tanga is and where to find those, but there is no way to describe that without triggering the word filters on this site.

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Re: a bit of help...and i feel more noobish than i should

Postby Wolfman » 7 Jul 2006 15:12

Krypos wrote:wtf is a TANG?


:P It is a citrus Drink origonaly developed for the apallo space program. Tang, the drink of astronauts.

:lol:
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Postby Shrub » 7 Jul 2006 17:26

Im sorry but i have to butt in here, the explanation given is incorrect,

A tang as referred to in engineering is a name given to the part of an object that a handle attach's to,

The tang of a file is the tapered part that the handle it secured to,

The tange of a pick is the part the handle is sandwiched between,

It has nothing to do with strength at all,

It is mostly used for handtools and the mechanical equivalent being somthing like a spigot,
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Postby Krypos » 8 Jul 2006 1:36

so then on a SO pick, where the pick is all one, what is that called and how strong (?) is the tang there?

and then this is a rough diagram then: (?)


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where ---- is the part we pick with and it flows into the handle
and ___ is the handle itself? (very roughly)


and lastly, i remember tang orange drink stuff, that was my third option on my poll, but alas, i did something wrong and it didnt show up.
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Postby helix » 8 Jul 2006 1:46

'nat settles dat.
...Tangs, guys.
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IF YOU ARE NEW TO THIS SITE: viewtopic.php?t=10528
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Postby VashTSPD » 8 Jul 2006 2:51

so, the tang on a file is the part with the teeth?
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Postby Wolfman » 8 Jul 2006 9:28

VashTSPD wrote:so, the tang on a file is the part with the teeth?


No.

Its the part that you put into a wooden block to add a handel. Something to that effect.

The tang does infact have to do with the strength of the blade. Allow me to put it this way...

Which tent stake would hold better, The tent stake 5" in the ground or the one 10" in the ground? *assumeing that both stakes are the same type and inserted into the same type of ground*
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Postby Fah_Cue » 8 Jul 2006 9:40

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Postby illusion » 8 Jul 2006 9:43

You are right Fah_Cue!

That would be known as a 'half-tang' since it does not go the whole way through the handle.

If you want to see some nice tangs, then search around for 'rat-tailed' tangs. They may not be the strongest, but allow a wide choice of handle and pomel. :)
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Postby Shrub » 8 Jul 2006 12:00

No such thing as a half tang, that is the tang you pointed to fah-cue,

On picks as i said its the part that the handle covers,

A tang is any part that a handle covers,

In theory if you wanted a sharp stabby bit of steel and used fah-cues picture, putting the file part in a block of wood would then make that be called the tang and the real tang the tool but in reality its not and the tapered part is still the tang,

A tang isnt the name for how much strength an item has but yes the longer the tang on such things like tent pegs (a 12" tent peg could be pushed in the ground 2" and a 6" peg 4" by the way) gives the item more stability but not more strength, the added strength comes from the fact you have more leverage on the item,

In reality the shorter the tang the stronger the item will be as there is less fulcrum on the item,

Tent pegs byt the way are pegs, that is they are a form that can be pushed to any level, somtimes to add strength and other times to allows more parts to be added, a tent peg as it can be pushed to nothing or left out the ground any distance does not have a tang, if there was a shoulder on the peg that you insert to the ground up to that point then that would be a tang,
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Postby illusion » 8 Jul 2006 12:06

No such thing as a half tang


Hmm... yes there is...
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Postby Shrub » 8 Jul 2006 12:22

Well i have nor the energy or interest to start argueing about this but a tang is a tang, a half tang would be just a tang not a half tang, half to what?
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Postby Krypos » 8 Jul 2006 13:24

WEIRD! in my rough sketch of a pick, when drawing that, it was the other way around, as in the handle was closer to the right side of the page then the tip. odd.

hey illusion- i like your new sig, where the duece did you get it? did you make it yourself? if so HOW? my poor sig is just a measly digital photo of some wannabe grafitti i can do. i never did know where people get their sigs. /scratches head
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