Security Pin Mixing

[LockNewbie21]

Okay i have a goodie i don;t think it was metioned. Okay so say somesays i want maximun security with my existing kwickset, so you sya well i can;t add some security pin. Now heres the question.


Is the locks function messed up if more than one type of security pin is used i will give you a little example. I thought of this becuase each acts just a little diffrent so i thought mixing them would confuse some one. Okay here was my idea.

Granted its only and expierment of thought i used Kwicksets as there well known


Ok Upper pins.
1- standard pin (stainless)
2- Mushroom
3- Standard Pin (stainless)
4 LAB serrated
5 Spool


Drivers are all serrated except pins 2 and 5 which will be standard.



Plausable if your willing to take the time if the person offers to take a good price that will jsutify the extra time?


If this would indeed work without jamming the lock and it would work just fine, then i am pinning one up and having a go.

Basically i jsut figured each security pin has it own uniquiqe feel and sound, so mixing them up might make it extrealy challenging.



Andy

[Shrub]

As long as the diameter of the pins is the same as the originals then no there should be no problem.

[LockNewbie21]

Sweet.. oo you can imagine the ideas of high lows with a yummy array of security pins are running though my head.



Andy

[Shrub]

I have a repinned Yale X5 that is pinned with no macs so that its the highest pin next to the lowest pin alternate, there are spools in every chamber and the spings are stretched, i havent tried in a long time but it still remains unpicked

[LockNewbie21]

Sweet i think tomarrow.. maybe tonight since i havent slept in three days becuase the new pup doesnt allow it i will make a cut away.


Hey shurb do you know of any companies that sell a pin kit with nothing but security pins.. hi know theres a mini kit, but i am talking spools mushrooms serrated(top and Bottom) all in one?








Andy

[LockNewbie21]

This also makes me think that if the lcokie is just plain skilled he could possibly make a good shlage harder to pin that a multi lock and suck, the only thing holding you back that i can see is the tollerances.

I like to think that every security pin in thats in a lock you dont know can dely and expierence person give or take 30 secs. and to a noob 15 to 20 mins.


Andy

[ThE_MasteR]

What are MACS ? I've been seeying this a lot on here, but I dunno what it means.

[LockNewbie21]

Shrubs a Mac.. atleast in america its a more ebonical term used for a man of many ladies

[LockNewbie21]

DOUBLE POST WOOT!


Lets just hope shrub is actually sleeping and doesn't read that lol



(as shrub stealthfully slips into thread and intersepts post




Andy

[Shrub]

I wish i was a mac by your definition lol whats it called when youve not had a lady for a good while and are loney? is it bum lol

Master, have a search around site, i explained it in THIS thread not so long ago,

[LockNewbie21]

Hmm i would say kidna lucky, you have a lady and she doesn't ask you to buy her dooney and burke purses for 350$ do you know how many locks and picks i could buy?

Its funny i say that when i bought one for her for graduation, i was like man that a set of falles there..danggg



Andy

[CVScam]

I think you could make a kwickset hard but there is still SO much room in those keyways compared to other brands and the tolerances are so bad on the cylinders the pins are pretty easy to bind.

[LockNewbie21]

Yea thats why i chose them to test, i mean you can bypass them and such, but jsut as an expierenment to see how it diffrent security pins react, then get me a nice euro paracentris key 6 pin and make me a goodie

[Kaotik]

Sounds like a good experiment to try, I am also a little concerned about the tolerances, but hey have a go at it and please tell us how it worked out.

Speaking of which, I recently worked it out with my old lady but had to work it back in again...

[grim]

Granted its only and expierment of thought i used Kwicksets as there well known


Ok Upper pins.
1- standard pin (stainless)
2- Mushroom
3- Standard Pin (stainless)
4 LAB serrated
5 Spool


Drivers are all serrated except pins 2 and 5 which will be standard.

just this friday (or was it thursday?) i was rekeying a lock and found a situation that was freakishly close to this one. the drivers were laid out like this:

#1: serrated
#2: spool
#3: serrated
#4: spool
#5: serrated

this surprised me all the more because i had to pick this lock to get it out of the housing. when i opened it up and saw these nasties inside, i actually took notice. i even impressed myself!

i was rekeying a whole raft of locks that day (hmmm... that would make it friday then.) and i can't remember what brand it was, but this was an old demo model that had never been installed. it was hanging around in our shop so potential customers could poke a finger at it and nod knowingly.