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[what1sth1s]

okay so i was really excited when i could pick my 2 pinned cylinder lock. i decided add another pin but i forgot to turn the plug when i was taking it out so now its stuck with the key

so is there anyway i can fix it?

[p1ckf1sh]

okay so i was really excited when i could pick my 2 pinned cylinder lock. i decided add another pin but i forgot to turn the plug when i was taking it out so now its stuck with the key

so is there anyway i can fix it?

So, what you are saying is, you had like chambers 1 and 2 pinned, and when you pulled the plug the locking pin was pushed into the empty third chamber by the spring. Is that correct?

If so, that's tricky. Do you know the cut of the key in that position? If it is a deep cut you might be lucky, because it may allow the locking pin to enter the plug chamber completely and not block the shearline. In that case, you should be able to twist and pull the plug a little bit, because the only thing blocking the shear line is the spring. In that case you can rectify the situation with minimal damage to the lock by just twisting back and forth until you shear off the spring. That will kill the spring and there might be some denting to the chamber bore, nothing more.

If the pin is longer than that and actively blocks the shear line... well, then I am out of ideas. Non-destructive ideas. Depending on the kind of lock, it might be possible and quite easy to drill a second opening into the chamber bore from below or above, whatever way you are looking at it. Once the chamber is drilled you can remove the spring (prolly damaged) and shake out the offending pin.

[jimb]

okay so i was really excited when i could pick my 2 pinned cylinder lock. i decided add another pin but i forgot to turn the plug when i was taking it out so now its stuck with the key

so is there anyway i can fix it?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but if the key is still in the lock then the bottom pins should still be at the shear line. So it sounds like the top pin and spring in the #2 spot has dropped into the #3 spot on the plug.

If this is the case then the spring is the only thing holding the plug in and you should be able to force it out, but it will break the spring.

[Shrub]

You may want to try hitting the lock with a mallet, (wooden or plastic) hard on the side opposite to the chamber, this can somtimes knock the pin against the spring and compress it enough for the pin to enter the chamber again, you need to time it right so you hit it and turn at the same time'ish, rather like bumping,

If youve tried to force it this wont work however,

If its just the spring you just need to force the plug around im afraid and then push it out from the other side with a follower which will jam the spring up in the lock but will eventually with pressure allow the plug to be forced out,

If its the pin thats stopping it we will have to cross that bridge when you can get a pic of the lock up, maybe the removal of the chamber cover is the best bet for you and worry about reinstalling that afterwards,

[Shrub]

Actually before you force it look at the possability of the removal of the cover first,

[Krypos]

yeah, i had a lock i was new at tinkering with and i thought i screwed it over and i ended up realizing i could just remove a cover thing and repin it myself, i had the key so it was WAY easy, even for my firsrt time, so if your new then look for a tongue like slip of metal on the top or bottom of the lock, you may have 2 of them, if so look for the one ABOVE the pins (where they come down from) and try to slide that off (beware that when you do the springs will fly out) and also try not to damage that slip of metal ( i did and now i ahve rubber banded a piece of aluminium can over mine and that holds it just fine)

if this is not at all relating to the problem then just disregard everything i said. ( and good luck )

[what1sth1s]

sorry for my late reply i recently had troubles with a virus. anyways here are some pics of it.


is this the cover?

[pinsetter]

You can definately remove the thin metal strip on the top of the lock above the pins to rectify your problem. Just remove the small metal strip that is in the recessed groove above the pin chambers and dump all the pins and springs out the top. Sometimes the metal strips are a bit hard to remove, but you can always take a small punch and create a small divot in the metal strip to give you something to get a bite on to knock it free. Provided you have not tried to force the thing apart, you should be able to do this without causing any damage whatsoever.

[pinsetter]

Oh, and yes, the cover is at the top of the lock in the bottom picture.

[Krypos]

...look for a tongue like slip of metal on the top or bottom of the lock, you may have 2 of them, if so look for the one ABOVE the pins (where they come down from) and try to slide that off (beware that when you do the springs will fly out) and also try not to damage that slip of metal ( i did and now i have rubber banded a piece of aluminium can over mine and that holds it just fine)

ok is that not what i said? in particularly, the underlined part?

sheesh...and worse, i said this days ago.

[Shrub]

Actually before you force it look at the possability of the removal of the cover first,

Four days before you said it if you want to start that game

[Shrub]

Sorry a day before, i was looking at the wrong thing lol

[raimundo]

get a hacksaw blade, or three inches of broken hacksaw blade, set it on the thin metal strip with the teeth cutting toward the rear of the lock, take a small hammer, and tap the blade once down at the thin metal strip, hold the blade so that the teeth sit in the marks you just made on the metal strip, now tap the end of the hacksaw blade near the front end of the strip, at an angle that drives both down but also toward the rear of the lock, the blade will grip the thin metal, and move it out of its slot toward the rear of the lock, repeated tappin will move the metal strip all the way off the lock, and the strip will be undamaged, and still flat, it can later be tapped back into the slot,
Only by moving it in this direction can you keep it in good shape for replaceing. do not try to replace the strip with pins and springs in, you do that with the follower.
The tapping on the blade that moves the strip is on the corner of the blade near the front of the lock cylinder, your hand will hold the blade in contact all along the strip as you do this, hit that corner at about 45 degrees to the blade, and the teeth will grip and push toward the rear of the cylinder.