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a bit of help...and i feel more noobish than i should

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Do you know what a TANG is?

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Total votes : 29

Postby illusion » 8 Jul 2006 13:38

It's not a new sig, but rather a sig Aqua made for me a while ago, and I have decided to use it now. :)

Aqua made my sig, and he did a good job of it! :P
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Postby Shrub » 8 Jul 2006 22:37

Wheres your quote from? or is it your doing?

It does bring up the age old question of do you kill a single person to save two others.
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Postby knight7 » 9 Jul 2006 2:01

wow i never realised quite how far of the original topic these things can get lol
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Postby illusion » 9 Jul 2006 7:57

Shrub wrote:Wheres your quote from? or is it your doing?

It does bring up the age old question of do you kill a single person to save two others.


My politics teacher used to repeat "In order to save the village, we must destroy the village." I never thought about it, but when I sat down I found it was hard to answer, and so I added the question that always came into my mind ontoto the end: "Of what use is freedom to the dead?"

I guess I could put it into another context. Take terrorism for example and how Tony Blair is able to supress freedom in order to protect it from terrorism: "In order to protect your freedom, we must supress it" Now remember the imprisonment for 80 days without trial proposal? By supressing the freedoms of those who would encroach upon the freedom of others, we are protected. The real question is, of what value is this 'freedom' if everyday we live in fear that we could be next imprisoned without trial? :? Are we free now? We are safer from terorists perhaps, but is there more danger from a corrupt government?

I hope some day I will know enough to answer that qustion, right now I haven't seen enough of life to answer this question.
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Postby Aqua » 9 Jul 2006 8:36

Krypos wrote:my poor sig is just a measly digital photo of some wannabe grafitti i can do.

In my opinion, your sig is one of the best I've seen...

Ps. the thread seems to be exhausted anyway.
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Postby Shrub » 9 Jul 2006 9:34

Its a long and difficult convo for sure and one i know weve had on msn before,

Theres the other argument in with that as well in that who polices the police but yes its somthing we cant and shouldnt even try to answer right here and now i think.
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Postby Krypos » 10 Jul 2006 6:05

MORE IMPORTANTLY is aqua and pradse lost the only two guys that make sigs? i still dont know where sigs coem from? i mean is it some sort of graphical genius that sits down at the computer and goes "bing!" ill do this and add this and paste that and modify that and bam! a perfect sig for illusion!" ???? i could even begin to understand how many come about.

also- thanks aqua for that, although i feel as though its just being said for courtesy. but how do YOU make sigs? what would you do for mine if you were going to make one for me? (all in theory of course, not asking you to make one, i think)
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Postby Aqua » 10 Jul 2006 6:44

Krypos wrote:MORE IMPORTANTLY is aqua and pradse lost the only two guys that make sigs?

I believe so...
Krypos wrote:I still dont know where sigs coem from? i mean is it some sort of graphical genius that sits down at the computer and goes "bing!" ill do this and add this and paste that and modify that and bam! a perfect sig for illusion!" ???? i could even begin to understand how many come about.

Well... genius has nothing to do with it...
...but the rest is pretty much correct. ;)
The three sigs I've made for illusion were the first sigs I've made for anyone, ever. They took me about 30 minutes each.

Krypos wrote:also- thanks aqua for that, although i feel as though its just being said for courtesy.
It truly what i think. I even contemplated using that technique myself. ;)

Krypos wrote:but how do YOU make sigs? what would you do for mine if you were going to make one for me? (all in theory of course, not asking you to make one, i think)


Depends on the mood, the weather and what you would want it to contain. The nickname also has a great influence on what I put into a sig (exception - my nickname/sig. Aqua is short for Aquade, and has not a lot in common with water).

Here I give the small list of sigs I've made. Some of those took me 20 minutes, while other took nearly 2 hours. Some of those were never used and other never will be. The ones marked with a '+' symbol were made after someone asked me to put certain elements into a sig. Bpc293 wanted the piramyds, for example, and Illusion wanted his own eye instead of the random one, etc.

Aqua
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5688/avatar3jq.jpg (1st sig ever made)
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/8186 ... ree5pp.jpg

Bonez
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2081/bonez37re.jpg
+ http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2492/bonez63jn.jpg

Bpc293
+ http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/7886/pyramids5qh.jpg

Illusion
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6481/illusion42mw.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9600/illi61oh.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/j ... i4a2wh.jpg
+ http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9194 ... on82wy.jpg

Keyring
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7947/keyring45ep.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/ ... eyring.jpg
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/3913/keyring97ej.jpg

Knight:
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8946/k ... ack9eb.jpg

Shrub
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59/pi ... 54105e.jpg

Vector40
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5650/vector4038uu.jpg
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Postby illusion » 10 Jul 2006 10:53

You did a really nice job on the first of Bonez's sigs. :)

I liked the grey one you made me for the sheer simplicity of colours in it, but I thought I'd use one of the others you made me, and have come to really like it.

Yeah... Nice work on all the sigs, and don't stop making them, ever. :P
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Postby Krypos » 10 Jul 2006 13:30

dam...my internet kicked me. i had a whole post written, and cant remember all the nice things i said. i think the gyst of it was something like how i like the sigs youve done and here a link to about (if it didnt quit too) 35 or so pics of my sharpie grafitti.


http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/krypos/

lemme know if that works or not, if not i will fix (if i can)
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Postby knight7 » 18 Jul 2006 19:21

it needs a pass word or somin :?
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Postby Kaotik » 18 Jul 2006 23:00

A Tang is a Tang but, I have always heard the terms for the different lengths as to be Partial and Full Tang, Partial being half "same thing".

Partial or Half Tang is only inserted half or part of the length of the handle itself.

Full Tang is inserted fully into the handle and the blade cannot be seen from the outside unless it has a two-piece handle revited or screwed to each side. Which explains why when one purchases knives, swords ect. it is always good to ask what type of tang it has.

IMO, full tang is better because it gives the user more overall force and control through out the users entire hand.

I have also seen the wooden handle of a file break from long use, if anyone else has, they would notice how the tang of the file breaks through only half the handle and split the rest of the way through. If it had a full tang this would not have happened.

I could go on and on but, this is pretty much the jist of it.

Cheers :D
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Postby Krypos » 18 Jul 2006 23:31

ok now that should work.

here it is again.

http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/krypos/
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Postby knight7 » 20 Jul 2006 20:30

thats awsomn wish i could do stuff like that
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Postby Krypos » 20 Jul 2006 20:45

id do stuff like that for anyone who wanted some.
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