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Peterson Flat 5 Template

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Peterson Flat 5 Template

Postby devildog » 21 Jul 2006 15:46

Just got these today, VERY cool wrenches, very useful. You will especially like these if you like to hold the lock in your hand while you pick it (DB :wink:). The top one is the Peterson Pry Bar, sold separtely, and is definately worth getting (or making) as it's a lot thicker than the other ones and is quite useful for stiff locks requiring a good bit more tension than usual. The flat 5 wrenches are two different thicknesses, a very nice touch, allowing you to vary tension from very very light to very heavy and even heavier if you've got the pry bar. The serrations DO help and are a nice touch.

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Postby Krypos » 21 Jul 2006 15:58

look nice. how thick are they though?
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Postby illusion » 21 Jul 2006 16:37

Nice one DD. :P

Ohh... I know what I'm making next. :)
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Postby Octillion » 21 Jul 2006 17:29

I've had those posted in my head for a while on the to-buy list for the next time I order some lock tools. They would be useful for picking locks in certain orientations that somewhat prohibit the standard torque wrench from working.
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Postby unbreakable » 21 Jul 2006 17:33

Those are nice :P :P .

When you say serrated, you mean the edges are serrated? Does this get a better grip on the plug?

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Postby Shrub » 21 Jul 2006 19:37

You can just make out small teeth on the 2nd and 3rd wrenches but i think i can also see them on the others,

The teeth are supposed to grip a lot better but mainly for steel plugs as they will easily mark a brass plug i remember reading on here a long time ago,

Can you confirm the damage thing DD?
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Postby zeke79 » 21 Jul 2006 19:45

I have used those wrenches for well over a year now. Easily my favorites and I highly recommend them. Quality tools despite the price (well worth the money). The pry bar is too thick for many many euro locks though. Just a heads up for anyone outside the US. It also will not fit the smaller keyways of many padlocks such as those on master no. 3's etc.
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Postby Shrub » 21 Jul 2006 20:50

Do the teeth mark the keyway Zeke?
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Postby ThE_MasteR » 21 Jul 2006 22:13

I made my own a long time ago, check em out.

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Postby zeke79 » 21 Jul 2006 22:51

close, but not near the peterons. The petersons are made of a stainless steel that I have nat yet identified. It is stonger than I have found yet. It is also serrated in 4 of 5 tools. It makes them nicer than anything that I have been able to make no matter how much time I have spent to reproduce them. Just buy them if you want the real thing. Trust me....
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Postby devildog » 21 Jul 2006 22:54

You can see a much better picture of the serrations here (scroll down):

http://www.peterson-international.com/tensiontools.htm

The serrations are smaller than you think, they're actually rather hard to even see if you're holding one in your hand. I'm sure they make some kind of mark on the plug you could find if you were really looking for it with a microscope or something but I REALLY don't think it's bad enough at all to worry about. So no, I really don't think the serrations cause any problems, however they do do what they're supposed to which is help to keep the wrench from slipping out of the keyway, which I like. So yeah, I'd rather have them than not.

Let me get the calipers and I'll check the thinkness....stand by..
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Postby devildog » 21 Jul 2006 23:03

Ok, the pry-bar one, the thickest, is 0.047 inches

The rest are one of two thicknesses, 0.0234 or 0.0156 inches ( plus or minus a few thousandth's of an inch).
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Postby ThE_MasteR » 22 Jul 2006 0:02

Well, the ones I made never come out of the keyway. I used the ones in the picture to pick the BEST H24.
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Postby Gordon Airporte » 22 Jul 2006 0:08

Perhaps you could fake the serrations by running them over really coarse sandpaper. Or at least achieve the same effect.
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Postby ThE_MasteR » 22 Jul 2006 0:29

I have a very slim file, i'll give it a try tomorrow.
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