Whats on 'your' door?

by **Deathadder** » 27 Jul 2006 22:23

Shrub wrote:I wont have an alarm as they seem to be ignored anyway and also any false alarm and the next time the responce will be slower and less careing to the point where when it goes off its just commented on that its next doors alarm again and life continues,

i think that was the biggest run on sentence i have ever seen.... in my life...
ever.... :shock:

im serious

by **Shrub** » 27 Jul 2006 22:25

Hmm yes im sorry, perhaps its time i called it a night lol

by **Deathadder** » 27 Jul 2006 22:38

indeed haha :lol:

by **pinsetter** » 28 Jul 2006 9:42

My doors are both fitted with Schlage 5 pin KIK and deadbolts. I rent also and when we moved into our condo it had Kwiksets on the doors. I asked the property owners if I could change the locks and they agreed as long as I provided them with the new keys and gave them the old locks.

by **bpc293** » 28 Jul 2006 11:06

i live up stairs. i have kwikset deadbolts on top and bottom. i was about to change them but i decided that i shouldn't until i do something with the old frames. i have a deadly weapon hidden in every room.

my cousin went all out an has medeco on all his doors. he brags nonstop to me about them. one day I'm going to let my self in and make a sandwich and watch some TV until he gets home.

by mh » 28 Jul 2006 15:50

ABUS EP10 in a multi-point lock.
And a nice alarm system, self installed from only the best components I could get

Cheers,
mh

by **scampdog** » 28 Jul 2006 16:00

i've just fitted new six pin zones front and back,extra era window and door locks,and external motion sensor lights, i've also got two shotguns(berretas),a dog, two boys, one is a self employed builder 6-4",the other is in the royal engineers,and is also an unarmed combat instructor also 6-4".this is one for beat the burglar.

by **p1ckf1sh** » 28 Jul 2006 17:10

mh wrote:ABUS EP10 in a multi-point lock.
And a nice alarm system, self installed from only the best components I could get

mh, can you tell me what you mean with "multi-point lock" ? Is that some kind of setup that has multiple cylinder slong the height of the door?

I am currently planning how to setup the door (see the "shoddy opening pictures" thread to get an idea of the current state...), and if I can strike a deal with the bank to keep the apartment I'd like some lock overkill...

Currently I have the following setup in mind:

Normal lock with EVVA 3KS cylinder
Fitting the Abus Panzerriegel (heavy duty bolt) with another EVVA 3KS
Two EVVA 3KS cylinders are already available, just need to have them reconfigured to the correct length. (Anyone know of a locksmith can reconfigure an existing EVVA 3KS to make it keyed alike to the other one I already have?)

Aside from that I am planning to get a Geminy on at least one of those cylinders, prolly the Panzerriegel one. Maybe both if I can afford it.

Apart from that, for ease of use I have the Abus Hometec electric transponder drive in my head. I have checked back, you can use one transponder to control tw separate units, that would essentially make it possible to lock/unlock both the regular and the Panzerriegel lock at the touch of a button. Would sure be cool to click the transponder and hear the crunching noise of the bolt moving.

Good thing about it is, you have total ease of use, no fiddling with keys and still full mechanical fallback in case some electronics fail.

I was also considering a keypad lock as a regular lock and a Geminy/EVVA 3KS/Hometec setup for the panzerriegel, which would not be cheaper and still have the risk of electronical failure and me standing outside. I wonder if such an electronic keypad lock could be beefed up with an Hometec from the inside to enable unlocking even in case the electronics of the keypad lock fail. Gonna check out the design on these...

Also, I need to check out if the Hometecs can be made manipulation-safe from the inside, elsewhise an easy attack way would be a drill hole and opening by some kind letterbox tool...

by **devildog** » 28 Jul 2006 18:19

Ok, a multipoint lock is one that throws more than one bolt, kinda like a safe door. They almost always have to be used with a mortice lock of some type. Here's some stuff that might help you understand:

http://protections-vol.com/serrablocca.html (the two arms on the top and bottom would throw bolts at the top and bottom of the door along with the other three)

http://www.securitech.com/multi-point-lock.html

Here you can see a pretty good diagram that shows where the bolts shoot out of the door:

http://www.signaturedoor.com/multipoint.html

by **rohi** » 28 Jul 2006 19:07

On both front and gardendoor i have KFV 2602 AS multipoint locks with Winkhaus AZ01 Euro's.
http://www.kfv.de/index.php?id=1&L=1

However, the times it is locked all the way trough can be counted on one hand.

It's just something i'm to lazy to do, and in my neighboorhood it isn't so buzy that i need to lock it all the way.

Ronald

by **rohi** » 28 Jul 2006 19:15

oops, link is a bit short.
need to klick "multi-point locks"and than "key operated locks" :oops:

Ronald

by **p1ckf1sh** » 28 Jul 2006 19:23

rohi wrote:On both front and gardendoor i have KFV 2602 AS multipoint locks with Winkhaus AZ01 Euro's.
http://www.kfv.de/index.php?id=1&L=1

However, the times it is locked all the way trough can be counted on one hand.
It's just something i'm to lazy to do, and in my neighboorhood it isn't so buzy that i need to lock it all the way.

For an eurocylinder, taka a look at the Hometec, if you have not already.
http://www.abus.de/de/main.asp?ScreenLa ... ct=0101b14
http://p.abus.de/downloads/de/videos/hometec_web.mpg

The design is pretty nice, the entire europrofile locking setup stays like it is. You clamp over the Hometec device on the inside of the door. All that is required is that the cylnder has emergency function and is standing out 10mm on the inside of the door. The Hometec device merely acts as a slave to turn the key in the regular eurocylinder when it is triggered by the remote. Lock and unlock at the touch of a button. I need to check out the thing firsthand, the one that bothers me is the wheel. I wonder if it can be turned manually. That would allow attacks by letterbox style tools through a drilled hole.

I consider these because I also am a lazy bastard when it comes to locking up when leaving.

by **Krypos** » 28 Jul 2006 21:37

well, more on topic, i live in an apartment, so my locks are, like everything else crap. we dont have a lot of money (if you can tell by the apartment) and so when we moved in, we knew the people that lived there before us, they were not good people, so we promptly changed the locks and went to give the manager a key copy, well she flipped out at us about how we're not allowed to change the locks, and we said too bad.

so i had a kwikset 5 pin (insert expletive of choice) junky deadbolt. now we have a no name deadbolt that has 5 pins and is slightly newer. of course, i bought the lock before i got into picking, so i had no idea of what was good and what was bad.

and if i could have the ultimate lock on my door- i wouldnt have a lock at all. the front door would be a door that doesnt open, it would be actually in the back or alternatively, in the lawn, going down.

id be so cool.

by **devildog** » 28 Jul 2006 22:01

This site has been mentioned before, but this is who some of you guys will want to talk to if you ever win the lottery

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http://www.hiddenpassageway.com/

by **n2oah** » 28 Jul 2006 22:44

I've got a Wright 6-pin deadbolt on the front door, a CES 5-pin euro cylinder on the back patio. On the garage door, there is a "Home Design" knob with a broken latch. And on my room is a 6-pin falcon deadbolt and a handle I made myself out of aluminium.

Needless to say, my room is the most secure :lol:

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