I'm a cheater!

[LockNewbie21]

Well this is what i have gotten from it so far.

There methods are basic meaning, its a foundation. Meaning most lockies have a key clipper when impressioning locks, instead of filing.

It does teach it to you to be an artist in a way?.. by that i mean whne filing a key you see more that jsut cuts you have to look at the slopes and sholder and everything.


The info is nothing out a CIA training program, but it does give you what you need to know to walk into a locksmith shop, and be a grunt and cut keys and pin locks, but also to get an apprentice ship.


I heard someone in here say that you will learn in one week of apprentice ship more than you will from the 100 courses in a year.

My only gripe, is that I thought for the price i paid, they could have given the following things... as another course i looked at that was the same price did.


1. Comercial lock picks-- Not something they stamped in the shop, the burrs a horrible and a new student would not not o sand and deburr them, a SO 20 piece set would be great.. even a 5 piece.

2. A Vice, once again for the course its nessecary, a simple suction vice is all you need, but they insist you buy it from there catologe.. for the price this should also be included.

3. A small Lab pinning kit- this would be wonderful instead of a few pins on an envelope.

3. Ilco key machine- the folley is good so i hear.. but only if oyu have depth keys, the micrometer takes to long.

4. 10 key blanks of popular locks.

These are all standard with another course i am concidering taking by mail, this course retails for 800$ even, all postage paid... even on return assignment packs.


Its a good course but they really skimp, most locks covered you dont even get the lock to examine... like the ace, wafer sidebar, ect. Just a long outdated chapter.


otherwise its good, you do learnt he basics and I knew pretty much everything in it from here, so i just used this course to e certified to get my apprenticship with my girlfriends family friend who is a soon to be retiring 40 year vet. lcokie.


But they are very good at support, and shipping replacement parts.




Andy

[RockInBlack]

Is it really free?

[LockNewbie21]

Well there not all free you pay the cost of the course, but there included. Much better for the price


Newbie

[lt6206]

Well this is what i have gotten from it so far.

There methods are basic meaning, its a foundation. Meaning most lockies have a key clipper when impressioning locks, instead of filing.

It does teach it to you to be an artist in a way?.. by that i mean whne filing a key you see more that jsut cuts you have to look at the slopes and sholder and everything.


The info is nothing out a CIA training program, but it does give you what you need to know to walk into a locksmith shop, and be a grunt and cut keys and pin locks, but also to get an apprentice ship.


I heard someone in here say that you will learn in one week of apprentice ship more than you will from the 100 courses in a year.

My only gripe, is that I thought for the price i paid, they could have given the following things... as another course i looked at that was the same price did.


1. Comercial lock picks-- Not something they stamped in the shop, the burrs a horrible and a new student would not not o sand and deburr them, a SO 20 piece set would be great.. even a 5 piece.

2. A Vice, once again for the course its nessecary, a simple suction vice is all you need, but they insist you buy it from there catologe.. for the price this should also be included.

3. A small Lab pinning kit- this would be wonderful instead of a few pins on an envelope.

3. Ilco key machine- the folley is good so i hear.. but only if oyu have depth keys, the micrometer takes to long.

4. 10 key blanks of popular locks.

These are all standard with another course i am concidering taking by mail, this course retails for 800$ even, all postage paid... even on return assignment packs.


Its a good course but they really skimp, most locks covered you dont even get the lock to examine... like the ace, wafer sidebar, ect. Just a long outdated chapter.


otherwise its good, you do learnt he basics and I knew pretty much everything in it from here, so i just used this course to e certified to get my apprenticship with my girlfriends family friend who is a soon to be retiring 40 year vet. lcokie.


But they are very good at support, and shipping replacement parts.




Andy

What course is this your considering taking?

[LockNewbie21]

Hold on i have to get the envelope, its a tech school, reconized as much as foley, i never did it, it jsut appears based on waht given and the date of the schoool the course would be more updated