kwikset security, too easy even for a n00b

[psyk0s1s]

hi guys, i just wanted to introduce myself, i was formerly Bbo5 but i type really fast i didnt notice that. i was intending for Bob5. sorry admins but i sent a letter to nick asking him to delete Bbo5 so its taken care of. anyways, i have picked two locks so far. i have picked a gun lock that i just randomly found in my room. i have also picked a kwikset security which was EXTREMELY easy. i dont even recommend buying that, i would go one step up and buy the kwikset maximum security if you're even considering buying a kwikset. i took apart the kwikset that i bought and i performed the digital_blue exercise which really helped me learn to pick. it teaches you how to feel the binding effect when you pick a lock pin by pin.

-psyk0s1s (Bobby)

[Krypos]

hey, that's great. you'll find that everything with the name kwikset stamped on it isnt anything more than a noob starter lock. after that it gets real boring real fast due to the shear easyness of it. really its more of a "how can you slide your pick in" lock. (pick in, pop. pick out, pop)

[Eyes_Only]

I assume you are talking about the six pin kwiksets with spool pins in them? Yeah, I was dissapointed too. I use the lock to practice raking and ripping techniques now since a six pin stack lock should be a bit of a more challenge then raking a regular 5 pin kwikset lock. I think they took it off production cos I dont see it on the shelves of home depot or lowes anymore.

[LockNewbie21]

Kwicksets are fun to screw with, try modding one.

i am working on sumthin but wont say becuase it probobly wont work and i will spare the laughter

[undeadspacehippie]

I am not sure where I posted originally, but until yesterday I had never seen a Kwikset lock set. I was receiving some materials for a house my Father and Brother are working at, some outside entrance doors came in with two complete lock sets - and they were Kwiksets. I was totally amazed, i even asked the delivery guy if they stock the stuff reguarly and he was kinda stunned. I am going to buy a set just to have it, I am sure I am beyond them now, but I just want it... you never know, i may need to pass this wonderful information along sometime to another person.

[LockNewbie21]

Wise thinking, there brilliant for vutaways as well, and schlage spools fit them so you can make them a bit mroe trickier.

Just good fun, and a confidence lock to have.

[psyk0s1s]

ya, definitely a confidence booster especially if you have been struggling on a lock, you can just pick a kwikset in like 10 seconds and feel better about yourself haha.

[the_unknown]

A kwikset lock was the first lock I ever picked, after the first few times I could open it in about 30 seconds. This was before I bought a set of picks, I was using two brass plated paper clips. (They were stiffer than the average paper clip, and the lock was the only lock I could find with a large enough keyway to even fit them in.)

[taktikz]

hi guys, i just wanted to introduce myself, i was formerly Bbo5 but i type really fast i didnt notice that. i was intending for Bob5. sorry admins but i sent a letter to nick asking him to delete Bbo5 so its taken care of. anyways, i have picked two locks so far. i have picked a gun lock that i just randomly found in my room. i have also picked a kwikset security which was EXTREMELY easy. i dont even recommend buying that, i would go one step up and buy the kwikset maximum security if you're even considering buying a kwikset. i took apart the kwikset that i bought and i performed the digital_blue exercise which really helped me learn to pick. it teaches you how to feel the binding effect when you pick a lock pin by pin.

-psyk0s1s (Bobby)

what's the digital_blue exercise?

[Earned Entry]

It's stickied in this same forum. Go ahead and look. I'll wait.















See? Hehe. Here's the direct link to it though : http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=10677

[kepiblanc]

I have already played around with several Kwikset "Security" five pin cylinders, all of which were rather easy to pick.

Today I went out and got a Kwikset "Maximum Security" lockset, which also has a five pin cylinder. I found it to be also rather easy to pick.

What is interesting to note is that while the Kwikset "Security" lockset is rated at ANSI Grade Three, which is the lowest such rating for lockset security, the Kwikset "Maximum Security" lockset is rated at ANSI Grade Two, which is the medium rating. Perhaps this difference in ratings between these two locksets was derived from factors such as resistance to physical attacks, because neither seemed to be different at all in the manner of ease of which that I could pick them.

When it comes to retail pricing, the Kwikset "Maximum Security" lockset costs around twenty dollars in the USA, which is almost twice the cost of the Kwikset "Security" lockset. Spending more offers nothing more in terms of picking resistance in this case, something that Kwikset never tells the consumer on its product packaging or corporate website.

[kepiblanc]

Check out this photo here:

[p1ckf1sh]

Check out this photo here:

You are using the wrong link. If you are on the photobucket main page you see the thumbnails and a table with links under them. Use those, they have a different format which enabled the in-page linking. I have taken the liberty to correct your link.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/kepiblanc/DeadboltLocks040.jpg


Shrub: Image turned to a link due to image size.

[jimb]

Check out this photo here:

I see you have been bumping it. How easy does it bumo?

[kepiblanc]

p1ckf1sh,

Thank you for setting that photo link issue correctly. I was wrongly guessing that my jpeg's resolution was too high to show up here in the thread.