Yale 6 Pin Cylinder Lock (UK) - Pick & Drill Proof

[fujcube]

Hi all,
Having open my first 2 locks, I am now looking to progress to something that will present more of a challenge. My first lock was a 3 pin Yale Padlock which even my dog could open. The second was a Masterlock 140 or 140D, 4 pin medium security.
I managed to open with single pin picking in approx 20 minutes. Now got this down to under 5 seconds with the use of the pick that looks like a single-sided saw blade. Light tension and a couple of wiggles and it pops open every single time.

Having had a look round my local hardware store, I noticed that most of the replacement cylinder locks are 5 or 6 pin Yale which are supposed to be pick & drill proof.

Before I waste my hard-earned cash, can these locks be picked? At the moment I only have the Southord 22 piece slimline picks. If they cannot be picked, then advice on opening this type of lock would be very much appreciated.

One of my mates is a self-employed handyman and regularly gets called to lockouts. At the moment, he drills nearly everything. He has offered me some work if I can polish my NDE skills, not only to help me practice my skills, but also to help him out.
As such, it will be necessary to kit myself out with some tools for quick entry. I don't think anyone would be too happy standing in the pouring rain for an hour waiting for me to pick a lock.

From my research so far, the most widely used locks seem to be 5 or 6 pin Yale cylinders and/or 3 or 5 level locks and the Euro locks on their UPVC.

Regards
fujcube

[illusion]

Urmh, 5 and 6 pin Yales shouldn't be hard. An exception to this rule is the X5 which is annoying to pick, and has some nice spools inside.

Yes, slimine picks will open these, if they don't then I've been deluding myself for a fair old while, and so have the UK lockies on this site.

Dude, actualy get very confident with locks, or else you'll end up drilling. Funnily enough, people round my area are catching onto the fact that drilling should be the very last resort, and will get very arsey if you just pull out a drill.

Picking isn't a feat that only deities can acomplish, but you need to make sure you just keep practicing.

Your knowledge of lock, and this is not a nasty comment, seems non existant right now so I suggest you don't start doing lockouts untill you know what you're doing. You will crash and burn when you have to face mortice locks, and other assorted complex cylinder locks.

[bonez]

as illusion says your'e no way near ready to do lockout work

if your'e going to do this get some training and make sure you
have a few grand for a basic toolkit!!!

[toomush2drink]

I very much doubt you will drill or pick an x5 unless you know this lock well,drill it at your peril unles you know why its anti drill.

[fujcube]

Hi all,
Perhaps I didn't explain myself very clearly. I know that I don't know very much about locks, their mechanics, bypassing and picking them, that's why I joined this site.

Neither do I intend doing my mate's lockouts for sime time to come. When and if I do, I won't be using a drill.

At the moment, I intend teaching myself, by trial and error and from asking members of this site.

What I had in mind was to buy 4 of the most widely used locks in the UK and the appropriate tools for picking/bypassing them. So, as I already have a set of picks, then the quick entry method might be a snap gun or an electronic pick gun, for appropriate locks. The same applies to 3 & 5 lever locks & Euro locks.

If I can become competent in these locks, then I would consider taking an accredited training course.

Regards
fujcube

[Shrub]

Get 3 or 4 ofe every lock to practice on, this doesnt have to be in one go but 4 locks isnt goign to prepare you too well,

Have a look a toomush's thread in the lockie bus section for an idea on what tools you should be looking into,

There is no such thing as an accreditated course in this country so be very careful that you do your research wel,

Start it up as your hobby and have fun, go out with your mate and have a deal goign where he times you for 5 mins and if your not in by then he does it his way (i pity the customer) and you will get better as time goes on,