knowledgable noob needing help

[zerokool]

Who ever reads this thanks for reading the topic. I have made picks from hacksaw blades before, unfortunately i overheated them during the making, and while i was using them they broke. What I had made was a rake and a tensionor. Now, I am curious after i saw the animation in the link provided. How exactly how do you feel when the pin has gotten above the line ( < forgot what its actually called ) and know which ones to keep tinkering w/ and which ones not to. http://deviating.net/lockpicking/01.10-setting_pins.html

[Shrub]

When you lift a pin to shear you may feel a little sort of click (i know a click is a noise but im sure you know what i mean) and the plug will turn slightly in the direction of tension,

You dont increase tension when this happens but then move on to another pin,

You realise pins dont bind in order as in pin 1 first then pin 2 etc etc except in rare occasions,

[Shrub]

Oh and click my piscture and look for the begineers lockpicking exorcise by Digital Blue for more info on single pin picking practice,

[UWSDWF]

First go HERE and read the announcements and stickies (you should do this with all of the sites stickies)

But specifically you'll find your answer HERE... read it learn it love it

[zerokool]

I was thinking, if I learned how-to pick pin by pin then the rest should be a breeze. Kinda like driving a stick, once you get that, you can drive anything. I appreciate the info, and yes lol I understand what the "click" is your talking about. You just simply feel it click.

[zerokool]

I actually have read the MIT guide before Thats how I started out. My old S/N was ZeroGeek79. But, its like a good book, read it once ya love it read it again!

[zerokool]

o.O Pyro's guide is like 51 mbs! that would take atleast a day for me to download on dial up! dial up blows

[Shrub]

Its only how to make picks and theres plenty of text guides on here so you should be ok

If you want a good read simular to the MIT but much better then look out for Matt Blaze's crypto site and in particular the lockpicking paper,

[hobkkop]

If you want a good read simular to the MIT but much better then look out for Matt Blaze's crypto site and in particular the lockpicking paper

I've read the MIT guide and thought it was great but after seeing your reference on Matt Blaze's paper I looked it up and was completely amazed! I'm new to trying to pick locks and this site but finding out about Matt Blaze's paper on this site is the first of many discoveries I hope to find to help me out.

Thanks much for the reference Shrub.

[ericm115]

Let me note also, that sometimes it won't "click"... It clicks because there is some gap betwen the egde of the pin you're setting and the next pin to bind. The plug turns a tiny tiny bit and sort of "pops" against the next pin that blocks it. This makes the click.

If the two pins are not very out of line though in your lock, and you can't apply lots of tension without multiple pins binding, the plug may not turn enough to feel it after the first pin is set. What happens in this case is: a. you have one pin binding. b. You press it up carefully (and you may feel a little jerking or catching here and there, especially after trying to pick it with excessive tension a few times... it seems to me that you can scar the pins a bit... that may be my imagination though), and anyways, c. at some point the pin doesn't want to push up anymore.

It's not a gradual stop either. It's very abrupt. The pressure on the bottom of the pin required to press it up changes very abruptly. I usually stop pressing the pin up and sort of tap the pin a few times with my pick to make sure its set well up there. The next pin should bind.

Anyways, just wanted to make it clear that you don't always feel a click and a turn... that happens only when you are an ubermasterpropicker and can feel anything, or else the pins are far enough out of line to cause the click. Sometimes it just stops.

Also, I think it was said before... but don't keep increasing the tension as you set more pins. The tension you needed top bind the first pin is roughly the same tension you'll need all the way through... that was a major problem for me. I would get excited as I got towards the last pin or two and wrench the tension so hard that I'd never get the last few pins.


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