Pins in ASSA SCD

[sveno]

I am a beginner and have picked a few chinese padlocks and an ABUS No 85/40, so a wanted a real lock to practise on. So I went to the local locksmith and bought an ASSA seven pin lock, which is very common in Sweden. Probably the most common lock in front doors of homes. I got a real lock alright. After a couple of hours trying hopelessly i gave up and took the thing apart. Almost all pins looked like they were made by some evil force.

I took some photos ( http://www.hoglunda.net/ASSA_Seven_Pin_SCD/ ) before I reassembled it. I thought maybe someone here is interrested. The reassembling bit was not as easy as I had thought. It took almost an hour, but at least the lock works fine.

I think I'll get some easier locks to practice on. And maybe put this lock in my front door instead of the six pin TrioVing.

[n2oah]

Yes, the pins in that lock are quite a devil. Try something without security pins. There are also good photos of the SCD's pins in Han Fey's cutaway article.

[Mothrog]

Yikes. And those locks are common in Sweden? Sure beats the snot out of our el-cheapo ubiquitous Kwikset.

[unbreakable]

Yikes. And those locks are common in Sweden? Sure beats the snot out of our el-cheapo ubiquitous Kwikset.

Yeah, no kidding.

What do these locks cost sveno? It looks like it would be a bear to pick. Those are some funky pin designs.

[Gordon Airporte]

It's kind of hard to tell, but it dosen't look like there's any counter milling in the plug. Are there any little grooves cut around the top of the pin chambers there like in the V-10?

[sveno]

What do these locks cost sveno? It looks like it would be a bear to pick. Those are some funky pin designs.

427 SEK at the locksmith's, which is about just under 60 USD or 46 EUR. There are cheaper locks, like the one I have in my front door, which cost about 240 SEK (33 USD, 26 EUR). Difficult to pick, but that doesn't matter much if burglars use crowbars.

Anyway, I figured it would be a bit too difficult to pick for a beginner like me. It surprised me that almost all pins were some special design.

[zeke79]

It's kind of hard to tell, but it dosen't look like there's any counter milling in the plug. Are there any little grooves cut around the top of the pin chambers there like in the V-10?

Yes there are counter milling in the plug as I have an example of this lock also. Evil indeed.

[LockNewbie21]

Umm.... i don't like those pins

It hurts to think of picking it, but i am guessing this is advanced material? If it is okay wi ll inquire in there, but has anyone picked one yet? If so what does it feel like, i am having a hard time trying to conjure up how far plugs would false set.. ugg i want one though.. anybody have any extras .. ye ai know i like throwing myself in the deep end.. good thing its only a pun, my old medeco would have killed me 100's of times

[sveno]

I updated the photopage ( http://www.hoglunda.net/ASSA_Seven_Pin_SCD/ ) with some photos of the plug. The new photos show some of the pin chambers and the counter milling. Evil at work, no doubt.

As you can see on the new images I screwed up a bit when I disassembled the lock. A coupe of springs got caught between the plug and cylinder. The scratches look worse than they really are, and I think the springs still are in pretty good shape. (I feel stupid stupid stupid.)

[zaphod_beeblebrox]

Yikes. And those locks are common in Sweden? Sure beats the snot out of our el-cheapo ubiquitous Kwikset.

not just common, MOST common^^
IF you exclude the newer ASSA twin locks (called v-10 internationally, in Sweden thery're called 3800,4800 and 5800, the difference between them simply being more evil pins in the 5800 than in the 4800 and so on.)

Btw, how come i always post in topics about SCD? I must be addicted!

Btw, sveno, if there's something you're wondering about lockpicking and locksports in sweden, feel free to contact me! (I need members for an association a friend and I are planning to start:P)

[Zeryl]

That lock does look quite fun to play with. Granted, it would take me quite awhile to figure out how to pick it, it does seem like it would be a great challenge.

[illusion]

I have a Ruko cylinder witha couner-bored plug, and it is not a nice lock. Thanks to BUMP for the lock BTW.