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Baldwin

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Baldwin

Postby BloodFang » 1 Aug 2006 16:48

On a scale of one to ten, how easy/hard are baldwins? Im thinking about getting on for my first lock.
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Postby Shrub » 1 Aug 2006 17:30

Is 1 hardest or easiest? :P
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Postby BloodFang » 1 Aug 2006 23:51

10 is hardest. sorry. :oops:
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 2 Aug 2006 11:33

Well if the locks are anyhting like the baldwins acting.. i'd say buy a quickset to save your dear life bud :P
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billy b

Postby raimundo » 3 Aug 2006 9:28

I heard billy baldwin is cheap easy fun :roll:
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 3 Aug 2006 9:55

I heard billy baldwin is cheap easy fun


Haha!

I wish lock picks and good locks where as cheap :cry: you holly wood you! :wink:
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I have 2 baldwins kik

Postby CVScam » 3 Aug 2006 19:41

I would rate them at between a kwickset and a schlage. The keyway is tighter than a kwickset but the spring tension is very low, the ones I own take a very light tension. I use a bent tension wrench because mine have ressesed locks in the knobs. I have noticed that most used locks are much easier to practice on than a brand new lock. I just picked up 2 kwickset double deadbolts all keyed alike and the cylinder that was mounted on the outside front door is very loose and easy to pick. The cylinder that was mounted on the inside of the back door is tighter and harder to pick.
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Postby lockedin » 3 Aug 2006 21:36

I've seen them a lot in the rich area of my city, but I'm not surprised they're that sorry as some of the responses say they are. I guess the price difference must be due to esthetics.
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Postby yng_pick » 4 Aug 2006 19:10

they look nice.. but
they are schlage keyways- im not sure if they contain any security pins.

I'm amused that you can purchase a Medeco handleset for a lot less than some of the baldwin ones..
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My Baldwin picking experience

Postby kepiblanc » 12 Aug 2006 12:55

My father recently installed a Baldwin "Logan Entrance Set" on his front entrance door. This set consists of a single cylinder deadbolt and a matching handle-set latch. It's very polished and ornate; what one might call a "designer" lockset. I didn't want to ask him how much he paid for it, but I did learn later through research that the retail prices for Baldwin products in the USA can be as much as about three hundred dollars.

As for this lockset's cylinder, it has five pins and a Schlage keyway. With my Southord tools, I was able to pick it on several different occasions with only a slight amount of difficulty. Although I have not yet had a chance to take this cylinder apart for closer examination, I would say that this cylinder has no pick-resistant top pins.

I have noticed that stores such as Lowe's and The Home Depot devote a lot of their shelf space to prominently display "designer" locksets such as Baldwin and Gatehouse. The exorbitant prices for these products seem to be solely because of the styling, not pick-resistance.
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Postby !*AMP*! » 12 Aug 2006 13:38

I've visited many home-depots and been in the lock's aisle, and have seen people picking (as in deciding which lock to get, not opening it :? ) out a lock and aesthetics is the main influencing factor. I don't think that most people even know what the heck a security pin is to tell you the truth.
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Postby kepiblanc » 12 Aug 2006 17:41

!*AMP*! wrote:I've visited many home-depots and been in the lock's aisle, and have seen people picking (as in deciding which lock to get, not opening it :? ) out a lock and aesthetics is the main influencing factor. I don't think that most people even know what the heck a security pin is to tell you the truth.


!*AMP*!,

Of course most people don't know about security pins, much less than even knowing how a pin tumbler cylinder lock even functions.

Most people also often tend to believe that a higher-priced lock is also a more secure lock, i.e., a lock that is more pick-resistant. As VillageKeyGuy already points out above, a high-security and pick-resistant Medeco lockset can be purchased for much less than some of the Baldwin locksets. This yet another fact that most people do not know, since Medeco locksets never seem to be sold by the hardware/home improvement/DIY stores.

The only places where I have ever seen high-security locksets sold are locksmith shops, businesses that most people would only phone or visit to have their locks rekeyed or repaired, ones such as those expensive Baldwins that they likely purchased at Lowe's or The Home Depot.
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