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by ericm115 » 15 Aug 2006 4:42
What are the three features on the case of the Brinks Shrouded padlock for?
Do any of them allow the removal of the core for rekeying?
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by Delta » 15 Aug 2006 4:59
With most padlocks like these you will find that to remove the core you must unscrew it from under where the shackle locks in. For example in your picture the screw will be to the right of the lock in the hole that the shackle locks into.
Two of the other holes appear to be "weep" holes which basically allow drainage of any moisture in the lock.
The other i am not too sure of.
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by ericm115 » 15 Aug 2006 5:19
yea, the screw under the shackle as you mentioned is the case on my Masterlock 220 and my American Lock 1105, but sadly, there's nothing under the shackle on this one 
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by Delta » 15 Aug 2006 5:24
Maybe it has an Abloy style padlock screw. Look into the side holes when it is unlocked. There may be a screw there.
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by pinsetter » 15 Aug 2006 9:10
The two holes are weep and lubrication holes. To remove the cylinder, you have to remove the pin shown in the picture. The sole purpose of that pin is to retain the cylinder in the lock body.
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by zeke79 » 15 Aug 2006 9:11
There is not a screw. You must drill out the pin you highlighted in red to removed the core. You can then drop the core out, repin and replace the cylinder and replace the retaining pin. You can use the shaft of a drill bit the appropriate size cut a bit long to replace the drilled pin. After driving it in, file it flush by hand.
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by mrdan » 15 Aug 2006 11:03
I was thinking last night, couldn't one use a hook pick to push the pin out from the inside? (If you could get a hook with a deep enough curve to do the job and still clear the keyway) I am not shure about how much tention that this pin has holding it in place, but it is resting right on top of the pin in the cylinder. Has anyone tried this?
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by Omikron » 15 Aug 2006 11:27
mrdan wrote:I was thinking last night, couldn't one use a hook pick to push the pin out from the inside? (If you could get a hook with a deep enough curve to do the job and still clear the keyway) I am not shure about how much tention that this pin has holding it in place, but it is resting right on top of the pin in the cylinder. Has anyone tried this?
If you had a really deep curve hook pick that was absolutely rigid and completely indestructable, then maybe. Otherwise...I don't believe so. 
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by Delta » 15 Aug 2006 16:33
If the lock is for practice purposes you could drill the pin, then tap it and out a grub screw in there.
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by zeke79 » 15 Aug 2006 16:37
The groove the retaining pin fits into does not pass all the way into the keyway if I recall correctly so lifting it out with a hook pick or other tool is not possible.
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by zeke79 » 15 Aug 2006 16:43
On second thought, it may be possible to use the key to open the lock. Turn the plug the full 90 degrees to the open position and hold it there while the lock is in a vise and drive the retaining pin down into the hole in the plug. The retaining pin has a reduced diameter on the end that rides on the plug so it may work doing it this way. Worth a shot anyhow.
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by ericm115 » 15 Aug 2006 16:50
eek! worth a shot unless I destroy my lock in the process.
That sounds so... destructive. mrdan - since you disassembled yours recently and have access to the plug and the retaining pin, do you think this would work? I really want to try what you suggested, zeke, but I'm afraid of jamming the plug or hurting something.  If the consensus is positive, I will try it and let everyone know...
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by mrdan » 15 Aug 2006 18:40
ericm115 wrote:eek! worth a shot unless I destroy my lock in the process. That sounds so... destructive. mrdan - since you disassembled yours recently and have access to the plug and the retaining pin, do you think this would work? I really want to try what you suggested, zeke, but I'm afraid of jamming the plug or hurting something.  If the consensus is positive, I will try it and let everyone know... em
I am planning to get another one and will try a less distructive method of dis-assembly. We'll see. 
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by zeke79 » 15 Aug 2006 19:43
Let us know MrDan as this question comes up alot. If you don't want to, then PM me and I'll pick on up on my next trip to Wal-Mart as I dont mind destroying one again for LP101  . I am pretty sure it may just work.
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by ericm115 » 15 Aug 2006 21:00
lol. oh well. for the common good I suppose. I'll give it a go tonight as well.
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